I have some difficulty integrating a particular experience common to my OBEs.. I am wondering if anyone here has these experiences too. I call them etheric body examinations, they generally happen near the top of the night, 1-3 hours after I've laid down. I am generally conscious when they happen, I shift from my room onto a large, flat, steel table and am given what we here would call a "physical".. I experience these in a highly physical way, I feel my body, my organs, everything being looked into, probed and prodded. All orifices are generally probed, eyes, ears, nose, everything. Samples are often taken.

I have calmed, over the years of being conscious of this happening.., but I have not yet to-date been able to 'open my eyes' and get full visual data regarding my surroundings. It is all I can do just to stay calm through the tactile sensations, as you might be able to imagine. I can hear perfectly well, and listen to the communications taking place between those present, who I perceive as doctors, scientists and helpers. I almost always do go for some visual data, but not much, I receive it through strong 'human' filters so those present all look human. I am not ready to let go of the filter, but I am working on it.


So does anyone here ever get these types of experiences?..

If so I would like to hear what sort of visual data you get, and how you have worked through fears in order to get it.

I appreciate all you would share.

What you are describing is the alien abduction/examination scenario. All you have to do is search on the Internet for those experiencing alien abduction and you will find those descriptions of being probed and poked and specimens taken and all of the rest of it. If you search for 'alien abduction' you will receive many links to sites. This was the second on the list, after Wikipedia, claiming to be the largest web site related to the alien abduction experience. http://www.abduct.com/ I glanced at it enough to see that it likely has something to match what you describe. If not that site, then surely another on the list. I warn you that this site was quite getting into what you might call date rape by an 'alien angel'.

Ted

Hi, Ted, thank you..

I generally do not visit those types of sites, I am looking for level headed, informed people [such as those here] who experience this phenomena without jumping to alot of emotional conclusions. I do not feel I am being abducted, but I understand this feeling in those who do feel this way. My communication with the Inner Ones :) is decent, and was established prior to my OBEs, so I know it is my own Inner Team who is looking in on me. This does not immediately stop the central nervous system from experiencing a degree of shock when it happens, though.. If there is anyone here who has worked their way through the initial shock I would appreciate speaking with them. Again, specifically to hear the process of clearing the pathway toward being capable of receiving accurate visual data.

Just to say,
I have my own boards as well, and one or two I frequent along with this.. I was surprised when I asked, and of many hundreds, maybe thousands, only one other claimed experience with this. He has not yet worked through his initial shock, his decision is to close himself off from knowing anything of these events. Which I respect, and understand.

I gave you that link because these reports go together. Sometimes abduction, sometimes abduction plus examination, sometimes just the examination. If you search for 'examination by non human aliens' you get pretty much the same sites. What you described fits the scenario, like it or not. You should perhaps invest some time and effort in shutting out such experiences. It is not necessary to endure that in order to go OOB. You have my sympathies.

Ted

Yes I appreciate you sharing the link, Ted, thank you again.. I understand in my own way what I am experiencing, I understand other people calling these abductions, I do not call them abductions myself, it does not accurately depict what I [currently] feel happening. Regardless of what others feel and relay. Knowledge, in my experience always leads to less pain. Clarity has this effect. It is in confusion that I feel pain. If I stop now the confusion remains. To deal with inevitably so why not now?

Those who are working with me are highly skilled, I have never been hurt, have never experienced pain nor anything beyond my immediate handling skills during these experiences. I choose to assist in the clearing of pathways, the clearing of fear in and around the area of this type of experience. It is part of what I feel I am here to do. I find it all more fascinating, than anything else. Fear will never stop me, my constitution is just not set up that way.., I see only opportunity for growth here.


I video journal my experiences to help me integrate, and to help others..
this is one that goes into what we're talking about here--
(it was challenging for me to do, please bare with me)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XLrC7atqsg&list=UUjtfNXVyzT6CnCXRvTQbPQg&index=18&feature=plcp


Casey

Casey,

I watched your video. Having seen it, I am reminded of what I would now consider to be a test from childhood that I experienced repeatedly in dreams and have mentioned here on the board. I see this as a fit for your experience and for that of the general abduction/examination scenario. In my case, I was chased by wolves/dogs who I could escape by the childhood magic of running back to my bedroom and jumping into bed where I would be safe and untouched. The night I remember was the night this ceased and because I was not able to reach the magic goal/safety zone of bed in time. So I turned and with my two hands grabbed the upper and lower jaws of the 'wolf' and split its jaws apart, breaking them like pulling a 'wishbone'. At that point I experienced the 'wolf' turning into my "Snoopy Dog" pull toy. I never experienced this kind of dream again. The test was over as I had conquered the attacking fear object.

This may be a standardized type of test for you and many others in this abduction/manipulation fear as opposed to my test which was another different kind of primal fear type test. I wonder if you, by analogy, although you are very bravely facing your fear by attempting to not give in to it are not yet failing the test by not confronting the testers and 'breaking' the fear. I would considering this to be the pass for the test, since it goes on and continues, with you passively accepting the test rather than confronting the testers and throwing them out of your mind. Do you see the analogy? Could this not be a simple fear test which you must pass by confrontation rather than attempting to pass by passive acceptance and investigation as a phenomenon?

Ted

Taking this pattern matching a step further, I suggest the following. I have often wondered why there is such a common experience as encounters with 'reptilians' by so many people. We have not collectively reached the understanding that we are commonly tested during dreams. Tom has described being tested. I feel now that I have been tested in various scenarios in the past. Others on the board have been so tested and reported it here. My conclusion is that this is a standard test type given to many, if not everyone, which they remember very frequently. It is a test that is repeated because it is not passed. That is the only thing I have ever been able to think of that could explain the 'alien abduction' phenomenon in a Virtual Reality. It is a commonly given and commonly failed test so it gets repeated until it is passed. Therefore people keep remembering dreams (tests) in which they were abducted/processed/manipulated by aliens experienced as reptilian in form. Continually repeated because the test was failed. This would explain this whole phenomenon.

Taking the pattern matching still a further step forward, all of this testing would have the object of taking us past and through fears so that we can explore mentally more freely. It is a battle for control of our own minds by lowering our entropy in this fundamental way of conquering fears.

Ted

Casey,

My remembered experience with these is limited to just a couple of episodes. My experience was that these beings seemed to regard me as pretty much a machine that needed tuning up or servicing... no "Hi, how are you today..? We're just going to make some adjustments and do this and that, and then everything will be fine". Instead, I hear dialog among them, about me, as though I were a piece of furniture. Sensing that whatever they were doing was a good thing, I didn't insert my way into the ongoing dialog.

Have you yourself tried that...? Entering the dialog, or initiating one?

Montana

All life is a test whether or not specific Consciousnesses actually exist. However, speaking theoretically, say there are such beings as "reptilians", and say such beings are very clever and very psychically "gifted" compared to most humans? Say they have a plan to limit humanity as much as possible and keep us in this hamster wheel of constant collective suffering?

Would they not want you and the world to think that they don't really exist as freewilled, influencing Entities? Wouldn't they best be able to do their job is most humans were not conscious to them and their covert plans and operations?

I don't have to speak theoretically, because i have experience and guidance concerning these, and one thing they love to do, is to psychically influence people to not "believe in" them and their influence and they are good at their job. They are master manipulators and deceivers, because they use PARTIAL and semi truths to deceive, which is teh best way because "half truths are worse than whole lies, they can even deceive the 'soul' ".

Their forte is to influence any and all who are more "sensitive", and they can do so because most people have lack of Love aspects in them that "resonate" with them and allow such energetic connection to take place.

If one is a sensitive and not yet like He/She of Monroe's book, then one MUST take specific guards and precautions against them and their influence. One must specifically ask for the help and guidance of only the most Love attuned and low entropy consciousnesses. One must ask these sources to protect and shield self and perceptions from any outside interference.

Unless one does, they WILL influence a person's perceptions and belief systems. How do i know? I use to be influenced and i became conscious of this and asked for Divine help in this. I doubt you or anyone here will appreciate or take kindly to my attempt to help counter balance these, but hey, i'm not here for kudos or for people to treat me nice, i'm here to retrieve and help counter balance these hindering influences.

Casey,

I never had such an experience, or, if I ever had it, I don't remember anything.

Since I was a teenager I had a repeating nightmare, where I was chased by Nazies through an underground tunnel or a sewage pipe. They always were very close to me, but never were able to catch me. In my dream I was extremely scared, and by awakening I was petrified. About 25 years ago I started to connect myself to my husband's maternal grandmother. His grandparents and two young aunts were killed by Nazies in a Riga ghetto at the beginning of 1942. They had their chance to escape Riga before it was occupied by German troops, as all their relatives and many other Jewish people did. My husband's grandma said, that she cannot believe all those rumores about Nazies, and not going to leave Riga. She, her husband, and two daughters were shot to death and thrown into a ditch in a forest. In one of my meditations I was with them, when they were marching in a column on their last day. I was not walking with them, but I was above them, trying to provide consolation and support, as much as I could.

Several years ago I was given a fear of dying test. I've meditated for 3 years on becoming free of fear, and I passed my test from a first time. A concentration camp plaza was rendered as a dream environment. I think Ted is right, that you have your fear test. Why is it a nightly routine? You should ask your guides or helpers what is this procedure, why it has to be repeated night after night? If this is not a test, but they work on some kind of improvement of your consciousness, do you think it has helped to improve your level of consciousness? Did it help you to grow? Ask about this in your meditation. I think, if you would not receive any answer, it is more likely, that this is a test. Then you have to learn not to be afraid of it, and it will be gone.

Lena

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Ted,

Yes there are certainly testing elements, yet as with all experiences there are layers to it.

Much of this is storyline data,
but as an ET experiencer I will share my perceptions as they relate to one of my own perceived purposes for being here.

Through my system old neural pathways are being cleared and new ones are being formed for a 'future' human which will have full awareness of, and be in regular contact with ET races. Currently, in this timeline these neural pathways do not exist, they must be built from within the timeline through systems like mine and others like mine which can endure the initial shock without a systems fail, as well as be capable of experientially moving through the related fear layers. Not through a single layer but through the full spectrum. I understand a structure of 7, similar to a chakra system or rainbow. The process of moving through this structure represents not only a full transmutation of fear [in this given area] but also the evolution of one’s quality of consciousness, as Tom would say, beyond the current paradigm.

At the root, or base end of the spectrum there is the primal ‘fight or flight’ response to neutralize. We often see through our dream awareness how this is being worked on. The ultimate task is to neither run from nor attack what is coming, but to be purposefully still in the full on experience of this energy without losing any degree of consciousness. A practical example might be that of a husband not wanting to face his wife, but rather than avoid, or fight with her he stands, experiencing the energy and doing neither. In this moment there is the opportunity to be and behave in new ways. The opportunity for growth.

Opening out into the next layer there is the sex urge, and then the feeling for willful creating/manipulating, the taking one into your personal love and caring --> communicating --> merging --> and ultimate BEing of that other. Where you are standing in their perspective looking back out at yourself through their eyes. It is a challenging process to fully move through even human to human, human to non-human is amplified to many powers. But perhaps this can help much of what is experienced in ET encounters be understood by the very local onlooker. We are all moving through the same process, it is only that some are bringing elements beyond the current paradigm in, which is evolving the timeline more rapidly.

Fundamentally, nothing untoward is happening through our encounters.. fundamentally they are a process of transmutation, an opportunity for the system of the human individual to evolve into something all together new, all while awake, alive and in the body. But conscious minds are struggling with the process, struggling to understand what is happening from a start point of being essentially blind, where their own fear creations are being imposed into the mix. But all is well, it is all a part of the process.

I have a certain advantage over some, in that my range of vision was extended prior to my conscious out of bodies and what some call the kundalini.. I am consciously able to hold multiple layers of reality simultaneously. Not always, but often enough for there to be an impact. In OBEs I often have the full awareness of four layers of experience, and four discrete vision fields.. I can see, feel and fully experience what is happening in the physical [conscious] layer, the etheric layer, the astral [subconscious] layer, and a layer that is perhaps a full blending of them all, where I am what I call superconscious. This is how at times I can see into the fundamental reality, and into the evolution. It is not an easy experience to describe, but here is a relay that goes into it for anyone who may be interested.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEcZ-KP1NE0&feature=player_embedded


A warm thank you to everyone for your replies, the content of them I feel may be addressed within my reply here..
(please let me know if otherwise)

Casey

Hi Casey, as I'm currently at work, I can't watch the video you shared. But I was curious if you are saying in a round about way that all E.T.'s groups are helpful and positively intentioned in nature?

Boy, i wish that were true, this world would probably not be so stuck and have such unspeakable horrors happen within it, if hindering E.T. forces that the likes of Bob Monroe, Rosiland A. McKnight, Edgar Cayce, and others like my wife and i got clear guidance about didn't actually exist.

I'm curious what kind of specific guards do you take in your psychic work and practice, or is your philosophy more the anything goes kind?

Speaking more generally. That E.T. group i've mentioned, just loves Love and Light New ager types because they are so easy to manipulate and to mislead. Many people, because of their good hearts, are a little too trusting. I use to be that way myself, but as they say, "necessity is the mother of invention", well also of awareness too.

This is kind of funny timing, but I am just now reading through a series of books that were released in the early 1980's called "The Law of One by Ra an Humble Messenger of the Law of One" and it speaks precisely about these E.T. things. This book was allegedly channelled by an entity known as Ra. In the books Ra states that there are two paths an evolving consciousness can take. Service-to-others, and service-to-self. The book warns of attempts at manipulation by the service-to-self oriented beings. This was all reminiscent of the rats vs the anti-rats in MBTOE.

I remember reading in Monroe's books of him being made aware of the different paths an evolving entity may take. It is helpful to be aware I would say, and maintain open minded scepticism and filter the data accordingly.

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Casey and 9/10,

Both of you are basically and considerably outside the norm for the range and purposes of this board as your interactions continue to develop. You are both much more about PMR oriented thinking and past metaphors than we use here such as extra terrestrials, astral planes and vibration levels. Tom Campbell had a particular purpose for his activities and publication of My Big TOE in this incarnation that is in a sense a continuation of preliminary work in past incarnations, all leading to a return of Science, and scientists as the 'high priests' of our present society, to the old paradigm of Consciousness being the base of our reality. That paradigm shift is being observed within diverse fields of scientific research and there are many scientists and mathematicians beginning to move in this direction and this understanding. Eventually Tom Campbell's work will be available as the framework within which this new research direction will be seen to fit. That is the purpose of this board so be aware that I will not permit it to deviate into a more (or mere) New Age type mode with extensive material on aliens, lizard like or not. Our understanding of the nature of this reality is as being virtual, based upon an essentially digital data stream provided to our essentially digital minds existing in a structure much like the ancient concept of Indra's Net. While your experiences, Casey, can be understood within this framework, they are not the goal and purpose here. While your viewpoints '9to10' are also understandable here, they are again not the goal and purpose here.

These comments are to simply point this out to you for you to guide your plans here.

Ted as Board Administrator

Hi 9to10..,

Within the structure through which I perceive reality, Consciousness has no natural enemy.. this is all created, the idea of opposing forces, good and evil, light and dark. Real as our visual environments do seem they are created. There are creations that have foundation, and there are creations which have no foundation at all. They are based wholly in fear and fear lacks the ability to create accuracy. And so inaccurate realities arise and may be entered. As well as exited [transcended] as an individual does so choose.

Does this make sense to you?


Casey