Advaita wrote:
Montana wrote:
I equate "intelligence" with modeling-system skills, no more or less. That is maybe different from sense that most people ascribe to that term. In that sense though, the skill set is improved the same way as other skill sets.... by exercise, by rote learning, by watching and learning from those who do it well.
A caveat though: I read somewhere that 'great intelligence' is the ability to arrive, more quickly than anyone else in the room, at the wrong answer. :-)
I guess intelligence is a lot like computers: gotta have RAM and processing speed and good input and output systems..... but if the programming is flooey, you could worse off than with none at all.
Montana
I'm not sure what you mean by modeling-system skills. I don't agree that intelligence is equal to learning in any form. Learning is learning. Intelligence is capacity is several different areas, like memory for example.
Hi Ad,
For me, the way I think about intelligence is what used to get called "The informational model". Popular use of computers was new then, and data processing and management became the new metaphor for intelligence. So, just like one computer can be 'smarter' than another for very objective reasons, so also might human intelligence be compared. A hard drive is the capacity for long term memory storage. The RAM (random access memory) is for short term memory and symbol manipulation .... the actual 'thinking'. Software is a structure established in long term memory that is used to process that data stored in short term memory. So software is essentially the same thing as 'learning', you might say. The more software we have on a computer, the more things it can do. Too much software running on rig can slow it down, cause conflicts, etc.... the metaphor is still instructive here. It gets a little weaker when we consider channel capacity and processing speed.... I could suppose that these are related to the utility of the rig as a vehicle to consciousness. Thanks for your note Quamta and good to see you are still here. I had never heard before of the reference to frozen and liquid intelligence... I assume someone came up with a fresh slant on things writing his doctoral thesis .... it sounds like 'liquid intelligence' refers to the software, or the software/hardware combo, whil the liquid variety refers to RAM.
Insight is a 'whole 'nother thing' from intelligence, though: I would match them up by putting one on the X axis and the other on the Y: You can have deep insight and little intelligence, as defined above: Anyone who has worked with the developmentally disabled can tell you tales of their direct insight into matters .... they will be in a meeting with a social worker and a shrink and some day staff, and their will be a great deal of yackety from all the professionals, and the 'retard' will pipe up with a fairly simple statement that sees directly into the heart of the issue at hand, and typically, embarrass everyone else for the demonstration of their lack of savvy in getting to the heart of the matter. Too, great intelligence is no indicator at all of 'insight', and very intelligent people are known to think and do very stupid things.
This is all just the way that I model (use software to interpret data) things.
Montana