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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:43 pm 
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It is possible to increase intelligence by using your focused intent. I know because I have done it, to a small degree. I am not claiming genius. This isn't magic. It takes time and focus and there is even a short recouperation period as you recover energy, meaning concentration and motivation and context. I have yet to expend a great deal of energy in this area but I plan on it. It is like continuing to grow (mentally) after you have grown up. Little by little. Although it is deliberate and faster. I feel invigorated.

I have improved my concentration, improved my ability to conceptualize and improved my memory to a small (but noticeable) degree. Right now I am feeling drained, however.

I have just begun this experiment. It occured to me by sheer inspiration. I tried it and it worked. I think I was nudged. I was certain it was going to work before I tried it. The knowledge just came to me. I want to enrich my life and the lives of those around me. I have always wanted more mental energy. I am not the brightest by a long shot. Not the dullest either but there is huge room for improvement.

I just wanted to share my experiment with all of you.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:06 am 
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I equate "intelligence" with modeling-system skills, no more or less. That is maybe different from sense that most people ascribe to that term. In that sense though, the skill set is improved the same way as other skill sets.... by exercise, by rote learning, by watching and learning from those who do it well.

A caveat though: I read somewhere that 'great intelligence' is the ability to arrive, more quickly than anyone else in the room, at the wrong answer. :-)

I guess intelligence is a lot like computers: gotta have RAM and processing speed and good input and output systems..... but if the programming is flooey, you could worse off than with none at all.

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Montana wrote:
I equate "intelligence" with modeling-system skills, no more or less. That is maybe different from sense that most people ascribe to that term. In that sense though, the skill set is improved the same way as other skill sets.... by exercise, by rote learning, by watching and learning from those who do it well.

A caveat though: I read somewhere that 'great intelligence' is the ability to arrive, more quickly than anyone else in the room, at the wrong answer. :-)

I guess intelligence is a lot like computers: gotta have RAM and processing speed and good input and output systems..... but if the programming is flooey, you could worse off than with none at all.

Montana


I'm not sure what you mean by modeling-system skills. I don't agree that intelligence is equal to learning in any form. Learning is learning. Intelligence is capacity is several different areas, like memory for example.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:54 pm 
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Advaita wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by modeling-system skills. I don't agree that intelligence is equal to learning in any form. Learning is learning. Intelligence is capacity is several different areas, like memory for example.


I think you got it right. Learning is what psychologists call crystallized intelligence, that is the acquired knowledge one accumulates by studying and interacting. On the other hand, the intelligence you are probably interested in is fluid intelligence, that which IQ tests are supposed to measure. It seems that most people have the belief that you cannot change the latter significantly. However, I beg to differ since this paper proves them wrong:

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Improving fluid intelligence with training on working memory
Susanne M. Jaeggi*†‡, Martin Buschkuehl*†‡, John Jonides*, and Walter J. Perrig†

Fluid intelligence (Gf ) refers to the ability to reason and to solve new problems independently of previously acquired knowledge.
Gf is critical for a wide variety of cognitive tasks, and it is considered one of the most important factors in learning. Moreover, Gf is closely related to professional and educational success, especially in complex and demanding environments. Although performance on tests of Gf can be improved through direct practice on the tests themselves, there is no evidence that training on any other regimen yields increased Gf in adults. Furthermore, there is a long history of research into cognitive training showing that, although performance on trained tasks can increase dramatically, transfer of this learning to other tasks remains poor. Here, we present evidence for transfer from training on a demanding working memory task to measures of Gf. This transfer results even though the trained task is entirely different from the intelligence test itself. Furthermore, we demonstrate that the extent of gain in
intelligence critically depends on the amount of training: the more training, the more improvement in Gf. That is, the training effect is dosage-dependent. Thus, in contrast to many previous studies, we conclude that it is possible to improve Gf without practicing the testing tasks themselves, opening a wide range of applications.


http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jjonides/pdf/2008_7.pdf


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:12 pm 
Very interesting, glad to know that you have followed your intent, as to become more intelligent. You said you knew it was going to work, that i think is us at the being level nudging us in PMR to accomplish our desired intent. intelligence is i think a broad perception the intellect has, and the ability to process and use the available data in an ordered productive way. This highly focused intent that we have at the being level, is i think where our true power to change things in PMR exists. Once we know by experience that we can modify future probabilities in PMR with intent. Is when i think in becomes highly probably, that we are well on our way to a happy fun filled life, full of love. Sabby


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Advaita wrote:
Montana wrote:
I equate "intelligence" with modeling-system skills, no more or less. That is maybe different from sense that most people ascribe to that term. In that sense though, the skill set is improved the same way as other skill sets.... by exercise, by rote learning, by watching and learning from those who do it well.

A caveat though: I read somewhere that 'great intelligence' is the ability to arrive, more quickly than anyone else in the room, at the wrong answer. :-)

I guess intelligence is a lot like computers: gotta have RAM and processing speed and good input and output systems..... but if the programming is flooey, you could worse off than with none at all.

Montana


I'm not sure what you mean by modeling-system skills. I don't agree that intelligence is equal to learning in any form. Learning is learning. Intelligence is capacity is several different areas, like memory for example.


Hi Ad,

For me, the way I think about intelligence is what used to get called "The informational model". Popular use of computers was new then, and data processing and management became the new metaphor for intelligence. So, just like one computer can be 'smarter' than another for very objective reasons, so also might human intelligence be compared. A hard drive is the capacity for long term memory storage. The RAM (random access memory) is for short term memory and symbol manipulation .... the actual 'thinking'. Software is a structure established in long term memory that is used to process that data stored in short term memory. So software is essentially the same thing as 'learning', you might say. The more software we have on a computer, the more things it can do. Too much software running on rig can slow it down, cause conflicts, etc.... the metaphor is still instructive here. It gets a little weaker when we consider channel capacity and processing speed.... I could suppose that these are related to the utility of the rig as a vehicle to consciousness. Thanks for your note Quamta and good to see you are still here. I had never heard before of the reference to frozen and liquid intelligence... I assume someone came up with a fresh slant on things writing his doctoral thesis .... it sounds like 'liquid intelligence' refers to the software, or the software/hardware combo, whil the liquid variety refers to RAM.

Insight is a 'whole 'nother thing' from intelligence, though: I would match them up by putting one on the X axis and the other on the Y: You can have deep insight and little intelligence, as defined above: Anyone who has worked with the developmentally disabled can tell you tales of their direct insight into matters .... they will be in a meeting with a social worker and a shrink and some day staff, and their will be a great deal of yackety from all the professionals, and the 'retard' will pipe up with a fairly simple statement that sees directly into the heart of the issue at hand, and typically, embarrass everyone else for the demonstration of their lack of savvy in getting to the heart of the matter. Too, great intelligence is no indicator at all of 'insight', and very intelligent people are known to think and do very stupid things.

This is all just the way that I model (use software to interpret data) things.

Montana


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