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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:02 am 
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Once one has fully realized himself to a certain level, and since pmr is a training ground (for beginners as tom mentioned it) isn't there a time (when spiritual growth has risen significantly) where one will no longer need to interact in a pmr set and just be fully operational in nmpr thus have much differant goals?

i mean to be completly unbounded?

when you know the mundane truth to the core, there isnt any reason to continue on in this realty frame right??

and move on to some higher experience?

For a person like tom who has gone real far into this, shouldnt you be Imortal to the sense where you dont even need to reincarnate yourself and start all over?

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Yes, unless one chooses to engage in a similar reality frame which utilises reincarnation (another PMR), but as the human system is an excellent one, I don't see this step taken often, as a "graduate" from this system is a very developed being.
Those who do not need to reincarnate, can chose to do so anyway for the greater good, but I again see this as very rare, as helping and guiding from NPMR can be more efficient. Those who at a great level and reincarnate here, are mostly "last-timers" and are about to finish, and not so much those already "ascended".


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I think there are also those that stick around to help long after they could be gone, like my boy. :) I'm just saying....
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Some comments regarding "graduation" from PMR. I believe that Tom has posted about this before, but multiple searches have failed to find it. As I remember what he said, graduates do hang around and continue to reincarnate to serve as teachers and examples 'on the spot'. Not as great leaders but as humble 'toilers in the vineyard'. They are here to teach by example rather than by being spiritual leaders. Nothing was said about percentages of graduates who remain versus advancing to some higher level. But very much a matter of entering into service of the CS.

Keep in mind that service as a guide from NPMR is not an exclusive thing from participating in PMR. Not every being is suitable to serve as a guide so if they can, they tend to so serve at whatever level they are at because of the need for/shortage of guides. Those who can, act as guides for those below them in stage of development, but not necessarily by that much. You are parallel processing your experience here in PMR with your experience in NPMR. There is not a reduction in your functionality in NPMR when you are simultaneously parallel processing a PMR experience packet. Parallel processing does not work that way. It is a matter of interspersing your experience in NPMR with your experience in PMR in infinitesimally short 'snippets' that blend into a continuous experience within each of your two parallel processed experiences. So you can be serving as a guide, at whatever level from NPMR, while simultaneously experiencing yourself within the PMR VR.

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Thanks for your replies!

So everyone eventually stops engaging in pmr activities at one point or another..

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Parallel processing does not work that way. It is a matter of interspersing your experience in NPMR with your experience in PMR in infinitesimally short 'snippets' that blend into a continuous experience within each of your two parallel processed experiences. So you can be serving as a guide, at whatever level from NPMR, while simultaneously experiencing yourself within the PMR VR.


like being a guide to others? and still be living my own life in pmr?


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Damon,

Your experience in NPMR as a virtual self is continuous. By way of parallel processing, you periodically and simultaneously experience a virtual PMR life. There are breaks between PMR experiences when you just experience NPMR, thus my reference to periodically. Those breaks are for more complete assimilation of your most recent past PMR experience. Development is slower in NPMR as the level and pace of interaction is lower. It is your interaction with others by which the designed in functionality of PMR to lower your entropy and raise the quality of your consciousness occurs. This is the way that PMRs are designed to work. So even if you don't have spiritual concepts in your PMR life, this will happen as a natural and designed in learning mechanism. If you do have such concepts helping you guide your life/interactions, saying this another way as having a better Intent upon which to act, you can learn and develop yourself more effectively. But it is all a relatively slow process, even in PMR. It takes many PMR life times to create real change at the 'being' level as within your IUOC of which you here are a virtual aspect. Since you forget and relearn within each PMR life, it can appear that you are rapidly advancing as you approach the end stage and get to your previous level of functioning from past lives. It is by pushing the envelope a little further each time in small increments that real gains are made. That small additional increment is the hard part and why it takes multiple life times to make real advances. But don't be discouraged at this thought. That is the way that gains and QoC and lower entropy have been occurring since long before life on earth began. Develop what spiritual learning that you can and improve the rate of development in this lifetime.

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growth takes place during many pmr packets before a great leap can take place, i have to admit this kind of sucks i guess, but much progress can be made in this pmr life right now. until pmr training ground is no longer needed

thanks for the reply ted, just to understand this a little better, what is left right after the death of the pmr body? that little voice in your head?


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Damon,

What is left immediately after your 'death' in PMR is your virtual self that experienced the PMR packet. Your FWAU as some like to say. Your 'mind' as you experienced it during your virtual lifetime.

This virtual self now experiences a transition period which varies depending on your level of experience and functioning, how many times you have been around this particular track. This is where the arrival station or park that Bob Monroe experienced cames in. This is where you are met, perhaps, by deceased relatives who lead you on. This is where you 'go towards the light' through a tunnel and meet a being of light spiritually significant to you. This is where you experience the travel between/through huge 'stations' as described in Michael Newton's books. Tom has described this as sort of whatever it takes to keep you satisfied and 'moving forward'. This is where you might get 'stuck' if you are locked into some particular 'belief system'. You experience whatever transition experience is deemed suitable for you.

If your experience and developmental level is high enough, you forgo all the above and make a very rapid transition and sort of 'slip' into your NPMR experience, taking it all in stride. Sort of joining the program already in progress. What you end up with in either case and eventually is your NPMR self integrating significant memories and lessons into itself and it is this that you experience yourself as. One virtual self again rather than two essentially isolated ones.

I have not experienced an NDE nor have any memory of this from my own past 'cycles'. This is based upon Tom's description and what I have in my mind as the 'truth'.

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