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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:49 pm 
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Hi there,

I was just wondering if anyone could tell me what it's like to be in touch with intuition. For those with any experience, I would really like to know what it's like when it speaks.

1) Does it really speak to you from a body part? You know, like your chest, or your gut? People always say "go with your gut" or "listen to your heart" or "the still small voice".

2) Are there words or are they just feelings?

3) If they are actual thoughts in your head from your intuition, how are you able to differentiate between those and regular thoughts?

So yeah, if anyone wants to share their experience or insight I would appreciate it because I am trying to find mine.

Also I am wondering if intuition interacts with us all in the same way, or if it is totally different person to person. The cliches that get thrown around about it make it sound like we are all similar.

Thanks again and have a nice day

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Some bio info -

MBTi classifies me as an INTJ personality type. 'N' stand for intuition - but defined in their specific context.

Since reading MBT and ingesting other works of Tom's, I have noted improved intuition.

intuition for me, comes from a silent place in my mind in the form of what I'd describe as an impression, that's been transformed into words.


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Hi Nathan,
I was sitting in a room of people and one guy was cleaning his rifle with no one really paying attention to him because we were all crazy apparently, it was a long time ago when I still lived in Huntington Beach. As I'm writing this it keeps going through my mind that this wasn't intuition (what I'm about to say) or the LCS keeping me in the game longer (this happened several times so far) with a nudge but rather my own common sense, but since I was sitting in that room too I don't think I was using it (common sense) too much. Anyway, I moved from sitting where the rifle ended up going off towards directly before someone, and it might have been me, asked if the safety was on (as I recall) to a seat not in the path and BAM that sucker went off. It was surreal to say the least and the hole went through two walls and splattered on a third. I went home after that I recall.

Intuition sometimes does have a "gut" feeling to it. I actually have said that if I don't end up having to use the facilities when I get that feeling I best pay attention. Since I think many times these little intuitions or nudges or whatever help us avoid things it can't be known then if we "did it right" by whatever change or behavior paying attention or not paying attention we emitted. You can't always know what listening or not listening prevented from happening or made us miss I think. Does that make sense?
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Your questions are penetratingly insightful. I shall provide you with another perspective on intuition"the term intuition as used here does not connote something like a "hunch" or a prophecy but refers specifically to the act of purest seeing into the essence of something."
I shall just put some thoughts and ideas forth that might give you some direction in your questioning "quest."
Intuitive thought is referred to as the third eye ,divine reason or a sixth sense.
Opening of the third eye gives the purest of consciousness or as Tom says a consciousness of lowest entropy. This consciousness has been known by many names in different times and cultures cosmic consciousness ,moska, nirvana,satori etc. I could welll be accused of too many metaphors, a charge which is probably well founded . The essence is the essence of love . Love has essence ,joy peace ecstasy inspiration saddness . The experience of the essence of love is the inner alchemy also seen as self love.
Your questions are insightful enough that you will gain some further insight from what I have told you.
There is much I haven't explained .Let me know if you find some intuitive insight .


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al,

Here in PMR (Physical Matter Reality), and based on Tom Campbell's My Big TOE we think more in terms of intuition as receiving or obtaining information (guidance) from the higher level Virtual Reality of NPMR (Non Physical Matter Reality) and the LCS (Larger Consciousness System) which can be thought of as containing or enclosing PMR in a hierarchy of levels. Thus third eyes and satoris, etc. have no connection to this concept, other than it might be within the thought system of someone coming here to the MBT 'world' from elsewhere. Here it does amount to a 'hunch', a thought which comes to you suddenly from somewhere other than your own mind. Intuitions can come in a wide range from a simple hunch, the sudden idea to change lanes in traffic or take some action or direction that is outside of your normal path, to as you say "seeing into the essence of something". It does not have to be some exalted concept of spiritual wisdom but can be a simple thought such as 'don't order the special' today as you go for lunch at your usual lunch counter. It is that information is being provided from a source that is outside of your own consciousness and that you are able to 'hear' and make use of it.

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Ted wrote:
from somewhere other than your own mind.


To clarify my earlier comment:

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comes from a silent place in my mind in the form of what I'd describe as an impression,


'In my mind' is where my awareness finds it but that is NOT to suggest I believe that is it's source for the intuition. I agree with Ted's comment that the source is 'other than my mind'.


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Senses go through a somewhat predictable evolutionary sequence of their own.

At first it is a big deal just NOTICING the new sense. Finally, one does notice that sometimes something new is there and sometimes it isn't, and correlates it to other data. As the sense of vision evolved, you notice that there is "something different" in what shall turn out to have been 'the primordial darkness'. It keeps happening, it is there, then it is not ... and then you start to correlate the presence of this new 'stuff' (which someday you come to think of as 'light') correlates to a sense of warmth. As time goes on more and more differentiations are observed and correlated. (I think I wrote at length somewhere here on the 'evolution of a sensibility', not sure. There are a lot of posts I think of writing and then never do).

It is the same with a developing non-physical sensibility. For a long time... you never even noticed anything was there: If it wasn't money, babes, food, or football, it didn't really exist. We gradually take on more and more custody of our own contents of consciousness and we get to a point where items that appear (in awareness) to be strictly internal impress us. It can be damned confusing at first. But if you don't worry about it, and just note these different items and watch what happens over time, you will come to observe that different currents have different flavors. It will become eventually easy to distinguish between a thought (or feeling, or other energy current) that is 'yours', one that is from one of your 'sub-personalities' one that is from a discarnate entity, something hooked to the present environment, and those that come from 'higher' realms, various guides, exotic realms etc.

So, in sum, its the old "gather data, look for patterns, attempt hypothesis, test hypothesis, analyze results, refine hypothesis" science-y sort of thing.

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It's simple man - you just surrender your conceptual desires, the things you tell yourself you "need" to do, to the organism's desires, the the things it feels like doing.

Feel the authentic drives, and let them express themselves.

Might be hard though if you still have the assumption that you as a self exist, I'd tackle that first. That's because the "inauthentic" desires, the ones you tell yourself you need to do to keep being the "person" you think you are, are only there to sustain the image of that person.

The problem is that's all a fiction - there's no real "person." There's a human of course, or at least the experience of one, but that's not what we think the self is - we think it's the thing experiencing the human.

That's false though, there's no experiencer of life - just the experiences. Thinking that there's an experiencer (and identifying with it), leads the mind to try to define something what's not there, leading it to do have all these weird cravings/desires for things you really don't want to do.

So yeah,

1. See that there's no you - that the fiction in your head has no real counterpart

2. Go with the organism's will as opposed to the ones trying to define the self

But make 100% sure you get #1 before going onto 2. It's a tricky bitch, but worth it.

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You fail to follow your own dictum regarding clarity. Have you read any of Tom Campbell's writings or watched his presentations? Or have you just arrived to tell all of us unenlightened ones how it really is as the teenager that you appear to be (and apparently are) using an avatar name based upon Latin that you think sounds 'cool'?

A little less atmospherics and pseudo profundities and indeed, more politeness, will go further to impress here. There is a small history of those arriving here with a blinding flash and deafening report who prove to have little to say but much ego to base it upon. Are you among those of that persuasion or do you have an actual desire to participate in the board discussions? There is a purpose to this board beyond personal aggrandizement.

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Ted Vollers wrote:
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You fail to follow your own dictum regarding clarity. Have you read any of Tom Campbell's writings or watched his presentations? Or have you just arrived to tell all of us unenlightened ones how it really is as the teenager that you appear to be (and apparently are) using an avatar name based upon Latin that you think sounds 'cool'?


Yeah Ted, I've read some of his work.

His stuff about open-minded skepticism is incredible, it's really the only way to approach new ideas - consider the possibility that they might be true, then look at the world as if they are true to find out.

Really changed my life, to say the least.

And hey, my name is cool. Or at least sounds cool. To me. That's all that matters, right :)?

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A little less atmospherics and pseudo profundities and indeed, more politeness, will go further to impress here.


Where do you see me trying to impress anyone?

I'm just throwing this on the table for people to consider. This is stuff that's actually working for me - right now.

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There is a small history of those arriving here with a blinding flash and deafening report who prove to have little to say but much ego to base it upon. Are you among those of that persuasion or do you have an actual desire to participate in the board discussions? There is a purpose to this board beyond personal aggrandizement.


It all really hangs on if what I'm saying is accurate, doesn't it?

I think this stuff is very, very useful. Problem is, I can't explain it much in Tom's terms - I'm only starting the second book. Sorry.

BUT, that doesn't make it not true. It not being true makes it not true, not different terms. Here, I made a thread explaining this: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6796

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