Consciousness Is evolving it self by using evolved platforms, Humans and such in VR as to become more, The same thing is true with the biology the more we consciousness become evolved here the more we the humans become evolved and it shows in how we act and also form change. A lot of people wonder why there is so much meanest, My view is we had to start playing the platform when it was available in a primitive state, AUM knowing our free will could evolve it one way or the other. all of the feed back in the system is there for us to choose, It seems that negative path we take becomes addictive. And that deep dark hole we get in becomes the feed back, that we need to move away from. I think we are here to create a (heaven on earth) better way of experiencing life. In the PMR evolution game. It is up to us what way we go. It just feels better! to move in (Love) the right direction, A much better way of living! Fred searching for truth

Yes that's the fractal nature of Reality showing itself or the "as above so below" thingie you noticed. I agree that this place could be nicer. :)
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Consciousness.

According to Tom...to the extent that I understand ...

I think there is a ratchetting learning bias in the system..., normally, conciousness seeks lower entropy

Meanness is not a choice, it is normally a starting point

If the IUOC is high QoC, the initial advancement is rapid, until the FWAU is aligned with the quality of it's IUOC

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I think it is more like we start out neutral rather than mean.

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Can I ask what you mean by that?

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I suppose a sweet kid could be trained to be mean in a bad environment, though we all have the free will to accept or reject evil parenting or evil peer pressure

I believe the model is that an IUOC is birthed in NPMR as very rough stuff, very much preoccupied with it's individuation, as it's starting point

Toddlers tend to be very self centered, and in the absence of animation by a cured soul, move very slowly if at all, toward other centered behavior

A toddler animated by a very green soul, a new IUOC, might be somewhat sociopathic, possibly into adulthood.

A TOEist would see this as IUOC infancy, and not badness - even cute

So in this the TOEist feels love and empathy, non-judgement, toward the mean person

If I am interpreting this correctly

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I don't think the IUOC would be neither sweet or sour after being animated. Why would an IUOC start out sweet? Why would an IUOC start out sour? Think of it this way...If you have zero knowledge of a subject you want to learn about, does starting out with a biased view help you or hurt you in your overall understanding of it? When I ask myself that I would say it doesn't help, but at the same time maybe a sweet viewpoint would help? The more I think of it the more I confuse myself. I see how we could just start out at whatever level AUMs understanding is also.

I want to hold back on commenting on the other stuff you said till we clear up the actual MBT view on if an IUOC starts out as a blank slate or not. I think we might have a productive future conversation after this.

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Are you clear that an IUOC is a somewhat eternal entity, and that a kid is one of many PMR FWAUs that the IUOC will cycle through?

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Yes, I am lol. I am not clear on if we are talking about IUOCs or FWAUs now though?

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Well, above I am referring to a sweet kid, but you refer to a sweet IUOC, so I am confused

According to Tom, IUOCs pretty much start out self centered jerks, if I am interpreting correctly

Other centeredness is something that develops over many lifetimes

An FWAU, is interacting with several factors

The level of quality, other centeredness of it's IUOC, related to the age of the IUOC

The extent to which the FWAU has connected or submitted to it's IUOC's quality

The age and PMR effectiveness of the FWAU

The values inherited from the parents and environment

In the context of

QoC->Intent->intent->decision->action->result->feedback->self modification

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I started off talking about an FWAU and then it shifted to an IUOC when you said, "I believe the model is that an IUOC is birthed in NPMR as very rough stuff, very much preoccupied with it's individuation, as it's starting point". Then I proceeded to refer to an IUOC instead of a FWAU, and I think you went back to talking about a FWAU? Do I have that correct? I got kind of confused there too :)

Where does Tom say we start off as "self centered jerks", which is a negative? I have never caught that from anything I have read. Wouldn't self centeredness just be our natural perspective of things as IUOCs, and not a good or bad thing?

Also, what do you mean by "Other centeredness"? I am totally lost on that one.

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well, self centered = jerk, right? I think above I describe how new IUOCs are merely uncut block, not bad, rather, new material for the system to process, a good thing - I was just being dramatic

and life is this process of becoming love, and love= other-centered-ness, as opposed to self-centered-ness

so the core game is our IUOC, over many lifetimes, over thousands of years, starting out entropic= self centered, and slowly moves toward becoming love = other centered

this is not something you can decide at the mental level, because low entropy comes from your QoC and informs your general Intent, from which your IUOC draws intent pulses, which feed into your FWAU mental decision process, which connects to your capacity to execute your decisions, and the increased benefit you receive from the feedback by paying attention to it

low entropy is a love motivation that comes from your soul, as the primary impulse, what you do naturally

and like learning to return a tennis ball, you it over and over and over, until you entrain on the process

intent->decision->action->feedback

you may be able to slightly increase the effectiveness of this process through paying attention to this cycle and meditating, improving the quality of each step...listening for intent through meditation, to inform decisions, developing the discipline to act on decisions and stick to them, paying attention to feedback, positive and negative, and not papering over negative emotions with distraction and vice

vice is stuff you do that you know is bad for you, to change a negative state - what is vice for one person, is celebration or curiosity for another - depends on intent and context

so....your little sister might start out her little FWAU life with a total asshole (this is the humour portion of the communication) for an IUOC, taking great and continuing pleasure in killing or torturing insects, for example, whereas you might have the advantage of having a very old low entropy soul as your animator, picking things up very quickly, and you naturally gravitate to things like saving worms trapped on sidewalks after it rains. That sort of thing.

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Oh, I thought you said rough block (or something like that, that I associated negativity with).



Oh, Okay. Exactly what I use negative selfishness and positive selfishness as. Gotcha.

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My view on blank slate, Is that when the awareness cells start to become aware of the data arising from wherever, That is the point when it can play platforms to grow itself. seems like a nice neat system of never ending experiences, Not only is this a evolutionary process, But it seems to be interesting and entertaining beyond words. Fred searching for truth

No, a "very green soul" would not be somewhat sociopathic. Inexperience does not make one have a negative attitude or behaviour, that is rather developed over time if the being devolves or it is born into a negative environment that makes it very difficult to develop positive qualities. Besides, there are many variables that makes it difficult to generalise new beings and their internal state, it's not that simple.