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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:47 pm 
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In the bible God is known as love. God is also expressed as being the source and essence of love.Christ is known as the logos : the source and fundamental order of the universe.
Fundamental order is low entropy ie. balance of existence ,without balance there cannot be existence. Consciousness of ego / fear is high entropy and has no compass ie. no centre ;eccentric . The continuum of love is as follows : higher mind free of ego/fear is under the influence of absolute truth .The root of truth is love .From divine mind cosmic consciousness ,higher mind under the influence of absolute truth ie love there is a force a spiritual force a conciliatory force emitted that we cannot at this time measure ,though its essence ie. essence of love is experienced in the now.We experience as joy peace freedom oneness the essence of love. At the centre of the circle our four psychic functions thought intuition feeling and sensation are in perfect balance. I'll leave it at this .
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I do not recall any mention, in the bible, that god is love. Nor do I recall jesus being called the logos. Although, I am familiar with both concepts, I just dont think it is in the bible ( at least not the versions that I read)

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'al chemy',

It might be helpful if you clarified the source, the genre or the common way of nameing the origin of your information system. Your metaphors are foreign to our concepts. They are possibly 'New Age' or possibly some older system, but frankly, we don't really know what you are talking about and have any connection with it. Have you any interest in Tom Campbell's work or are you here as a 'missionary' for some other set of information?

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I have much interest in Tom's work and am still working with the material ,but do find it more accessible on my second reading. Probably I do post too soon but find such parallels with my own journey as to personal experience and other knowledge sources that I as they say jump the gun. I do not have an agenda other than truth and that truth journey has as its bedrock personal consciousness experience. I find much to learn from from many sources but do not identify myself with the name be it Taoism or depth psychology or Gnosticism and inner alchemy kundalini etc. The paths we take are but tributaries to the source. I would like to continue to post and will try to be closer to Tom's expression.


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al chemy,

YES

Please do keep on posting.

We learn and grow as we bounce ideas back and forth

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I John Chapter 4 Verse 8:

"He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love."

And

Verse 16 of the same chapter:

"And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him."


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I stand corrected.

One verse earlier (verse 7) states ...


"Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God"


....and 2 verses later, in verse 18, it says ...


"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love."


More good ones...

Verse 11 - "Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another."

12 - "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."

16 - "...God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him."

20 - "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?"

21 - "And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also."

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If there is one hard and great lesson I have learned in my own spiritual walk, dogma and everything else aside, it is indeed that God is love. My own data points to this being a foundational truth. The AUM/ LCS created this great process of existence in which the purpose for the individual IUOC is to become love through huge amounts of experience of free will choice. How can we not then put a great focus on the love of the AUM/ LCS itself (or "Himself" in Christian metaphor) who initiated this process? Is not the "Source" extremely low-entropy itself to develop this process and its goal? Is it not a simple logical deduction that this Consciousness is itself loving of us? And even to be thankful for the existence it's given us, and therefore loving in return?

I am interested to hearing everyone's thoughts on this. Thank you!


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Love is god.
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Aerin328 wrote:
If there is one hard and great lesson I have learned in my own spiritual walk, dogma and everything else aside, it is indeed that God is love. My own data points to this being a foundational truth. The AUM/ LCS created this great process of existence in which the purpose for the individual IUOC is to become love through huge amounts of experience of free will choice. How can we not then put a great focus on the love of the AUM/ LCS itself (or "Himself" in Christian metaphor) who initiated this process? Is not the "Source" extremely low-entropy itself to develop this process and its goal? Is it not a simple logical deduction that this Consciousness is itself loving of us? And even to be thankful for the existence it's given us, and therefore loving in return?

I am interested to hearing everyone's thoughts on this. Thank you!


Very well said. Sometimes in meditation I think/feel about this and such gratitude and thankfulness arises, that we are One with the Source and all contained (yet ourselves and individual) and connected by Love within, that tears cannot but help but flow.

Something that I've learned is that we have sort of hierarchies of creators. We have the original Source, the initial self aware Consciousness who started this individualization process, but this Universe (physical and nonphysical) that we exist in, was not the sole creation of that Creator but of one of it's "children" so to speak, a Consciousness much like us but who grew up in Love, became fully conscious of It's Oneness with Source and the all, and then with the power and awareness of Source behind it, Co-Created this Reality and some of the individual consciousnesses that exist in same.

I have learned that some IUOC's are direct creations of The Source, and some are creations of the 1st fully mature/aware/Loving companion. To some extent, the first wave of created IUOC were more experimental in nature and there was a much wider range of expression. The 2nd Creator, WAS and IS LOVE personified, and used Love as more the "base" for creating other IUOC's so there was a greater overall harmony in the IUOC's that it co-created. Some were specifically co-created as "Retrievers" to find and help the original lost parts of self that occurred in the more experimental and "chaotic" phase of creating. These were given a good dose of Love awareness and energetic from the get go, but still free willed and certainly many of us got stuck ourselves here and there temporarily, but many of us have strong and consistent service patterns. IUOC's like Tom, Bob M., Rosie M. and many others belong to. Surprisingly, I found a very similar understanding and "vision" in Bruce Moen's work (specifically his book, "Voyage to Curiosity's Father").

Those who are prejudiced against anything religious, don't like to hear that the IUOC who was the Co-Creator of this Reality/Universe, is the very same one that the personality/man "Jesus" belongs to and that Jesus is also "He/She" of Monroe's 3rd book. The times are coming when more will learn this in an experiential manner and from going within, rather than from distorted religious dogma. While i'm not and haven't ever been religious, i am not afraid to show my love and appreciation for Yeshua and his IUOC. I understand that some explorers, may keep him and his role secret and un-named because they are more public and want their work to be more universally affecting and influential and there will always be those with bad childhood experiences or what not, who won't be able to stomach those truths and thus will throw the baby out with the bathwater. Thankfully, I have no such constraints and neither did the channel Edgar Cayce. His source of information pretty much laid this out as well and indicated that this IUOC was the Co-Creator of this reality, and has come into the Earth during almost every Age to retrieve those who are stuck and suffering.

I suspect that one of the "goals" and hopes from this whole process, is that our IUOC's will likewise mature enough and become Co-Creators of other unique and different realities and consciousnesses to further the process and continually expand Self, the LCS, and it's joyous, artistic expression. Indeed there are other Co-Creators in existence and who are in this same process beyond the boundaries of our Reality. (your IUOC first has to be complete and whole before you can move on to do this, which is why Bob Monroe was told by one of these Co-Creators that he was still yet "small" and incomplete--he lacked the "gifts".)

Will the process ever "end", I really doubt it, because it feels SO good, but there is enough ups and downs in the process that we don't become numb to the feel good part of it, because freewill being what it is, it seems some consciousnesses will almost always get off track at some point (become "high entropy") and thus create temporary suffering and inharmony within the LCS.


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So the old dog that was Vasra cannot learn any new tricks? You must still proselytize here for some kind of New Age/Arcturan/Christianity hodge podge that is conflicting with the purpose of this bulletin board. That you believe this is fine, welcome to it. That you preach it elsewhere is fine, but here it is a no-no. We are not anti-Christian, anti-White Light, or however you might see it. But there is a purpose for this board, clearly stated, and you will either work within it or you will leave again. Entertain the troops with stories of derring-do amongst the non-physicals. Perhaps they even happened. But do not attempt to make this a platform for preaching some New Age belief system with no fit to MBT and no sign of learning anything or trying to. This bulletin board was not created and expanded and maintained for the purpose of providing you with a platform and an audience that you admit that you cannot draw to your own site. Capiche?

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LoveSinger has been here before under two different names and was obliged to leave. He is now back under a third name singing the same song as previously.

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Good pun Ted.

Hmm, most of my beliefs and perceptions are based on direct guidance and/or experience, but hey, if Tom Campbell didn't say it, obviously it's not true.


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Presumably you are more intelligent than that comment indicates. You got the message. Stop with the proselytizing or leave. This board will not be turned into the platform that you presently do not have.

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