Tom,

After my last post about my encounter with a NPMR being, I have finished the MBT trilogy, and am on to "Discovery" for the 2nd time. I have a few questions that I know keep me on the exploration path, but I'm just kinda curious....

I have been doing a varied TM routine (at least 5 times a week since november, in the past few weeks, about 2 times a day), since starting the trilogy last November. I have have since seen results in my awareness of the bigger picture that has been riddden of alot of religious confusion. The thing is, I know I have "fully" gone out of body at least once since November. And have come VERY close about 7 times. I can get to the "coming out" stage when I focus myself really hard at the vibration stage (which happens randomly, about once a month). I'm not fearing it, but I get too excited. I know it's happening, but I just can't figure out whats holding me back from doing it more often. I'm WAY more focused on TM. But I'm almost there with OOBE and I would like to get it down. But my conscious awareness of it just keeps happening at the most random times, and I'm just not sure what's keeping me from doing it more often than it already is. Maybe I still have too many expectations of it? I know I gotta stay patient and it will eventually come...eventually. But do you have any honest recomendations for a better understanding of how to get there more often? I'm open to anything.

If I know my consciousness has gone from my body, and my consciousness has expereinced the bigger picture first hand, why do I not remember what I have experienced through any physical memory of what happened? I know I can credit my personal growth to it, and I KNOW I have been there (in NPMR, as a child, or even recently In NPMR). Maybe I already know the answer, but is my still large ego still clouding my view? Just something I'm kinda throwing around right now. Does that make sense to you? Or am I asking the wrong questions?

TobyH,

You probably need to not try so hard and just let it happen. Be a dispassionate detached observer, not a judge or an intellect trying to fill an expectation. When your mind is no longer aware of the physical, you are there -- go do something that is evidential. Keep after it until you know your process is effective.

You won't remember here until you take your fully operative here-awareness there. To bring your experience back to PMR, it must be the experience of the awareness defined as TobyH -- the awareness that has joined the PMR learning lab and then traveled to other reality systems from PMR. The experience that is remembered here (in PMR physical brain) is the experience of the present awareness that is focused in PMR. When that specific awareness (a subset of your overall consciousness) travels you will have lasting memory of it while your awareness is back in PMR if the experience can be translated into the concepts and symbols contained in your brain.

Tom C

Tom,
Tom: "You won't remember here until you take your fully operative here-awareness there. To bring your experience back to PMR, it must be the experience of the awareness defined as TobyH -- the awareness that has joined the PMR learning lab and then traveled to other reality systems from PMR. "

What is your perception of Tom Campbell now after all of these years of exploring? In the same phrasing as the above post,to you are you still the awareness defined as "Tom Campbell"? I was just curious about the perception of self after the experiences you have had. I have sometimes started to feel a little removed from the "Ramon" I used to be. Especially over the past few months after reading MBT and the changes in perception that it has precipitated. You advocate ego reduction but after a certain point, does the individuality start to lose its precisely defined boundaries? Do you feel that you are more of the larger identity that is your total self? Or are you just a TC conscious awareness on steroids? So many questions! It seems I have a healthy dose of curiosity today. This is just something that has been on my mind lately. Thanks.

Tom:"When your mind is no longer aware of the physical, you are there -- go do something that is evidential. Keep after it until you know your process is effective."

Just wanted to add how great this part is. It is something that took a while for me to get. The beliefs that I had about what was "supposed to happen" were getting in the way.

Thanks
Ramon

Ramon,

When we grow up we change and become different people -- a different being, a new entity. That is a good thing. Let the old go. Good riddance to fear and ego, hello to larger perspectives and understanding. A new me is born every day -- not new by very much -- but the cumulative process over 35 years is immense. change accelerates, pretty soon you can no longer see yourself in the review mirror. You feel like you have always been the way you are now -- the historical database tells a different story.

I have no precisely defined boundaries. I am fluid and thus can take whatever form is most suitable for the moment. Form becomes almost meaningless. I live in multiple simultaneous reality systems and states of consciousness more or less all the time and integrate them seamlessly with a job and family. Order springs magically out of chaos. Balance is key. When you pull up the anchor and let change happen as it needs to you actually get better at all those things (job family, and relationship) you need to be and do with less effort. It may sound strange, but the more you let go of direct control, the more directed and under control your existence becomes. The weirder I get, the more normal I appear. Now that is really weird isn't it?


Raymond: "It is something that took a while for me to get. The beliefs that I had about what was 'supposed to happen' were getting in the way".

Congrats! That is the big one. The belief that keeps most of us from accomplishing what we are trying to accomplish. Expect a few more layers of the particular onion to slowly peel away as you realize that you have taken on beliefs (expectations) you didn't realize were beliefs. Just experience and explore -- let what happens happen and take notes. Adjust as necessary.

Tom C