Tom,

I began intentionally initiating OBE's a year ago, and ever since then, I have been in contact with NPMR beings, one of which who says that he is my spiritual guide. I have learned so much since I began intentionally initiating OBE's. I have learned some things through direct experience, and I have been reading books (your books, Robert Monroe, William Buhlman, Michael Newton, etc.), and sometimes, knowledge seems to come to me from out of nowhere as if I've "opened myself up" and connected with NPMR, and sometimes I get some help from my NPMR friends. You briefly mentioned in "My Big TOE" the fact that we may be lying in a tank or chamber somewhere. It is ironic that you mentioned this in your book, because prior to reading "My Big TOE", I was sitting in silence one day and started thinking deeply about reality, and I came up with the same thought. I thought about the fact that what we are experiencing here in this PMR is just a fragment of the entirity of who we really are. Would you care to elaborate a little on your ideas about the tank/chamber?

Thanks.

TishAnna,

I do not immediately recall a mention of a tank/chamber -- except a passing reference to a sensory deprivation tank/chamber while talking about meditation in chapter 23 in Book 1. I don't think this is what you are referring to -- sorry but I need a little nudge before can respond.

Tom

Hello Tom,

I am sorry that it has taken me such a long "time" to respond. It was brought to my attention that I hadn't answered your response.

I highlighted passages while reading your books, and for some reason, after reviewing the books again, I cannot seem to find the passage that I recall about the chambers.

I'll try to ask you a question that hopefully elaborates on what I was trying to say in my original post. I understand from reading your books that we are experiencing a "virtual reality" that is our perceived experince in PMR. You mention an oversoul in your books. Am I understanding correctly that the "part" of us that perceives itself to be experiencing PMR is a "splitting off" of the oversoul? While we are perceiving ourselves to be experiencing PMR, where is the oversoul "housed", and what is it doing simultaneously? Is the oversoul at rest in a sort of chamber, "waiting" for us to return to it to upload the wisdom we gained from this PMR experience back into the oversoul, or is the oversoul lying somewhere and somewhat "dreaming" all of this PMR virtual reality? The reason I ask, is because one of my guides once told me that "Life is but a dream". I also drew a diagram once that showed that this PMR experience was a "splitting off" of the oversoul, and each experience of us in each reality/incarnation (whatever one may want to call it) is also a "splitting off" of the over soul. I was thinking we are connected to the oversoul, but while we're experiencing PMR, some of the info is blocked (certain past life info, etc.) so as to not interfere too much with this virtual experience/incarnation.

Thanks.
- Tish

Tishanna asked: “Am I understanding correctly that the "part" of us that perceives itself to be experiencing PMR is a "splitting off" of the oversoul?“

Yes, we (in PMR) represent only a fragment of our total self. However, we must be careful how using PMR words leads us into assumptions. Because we are habituated to 3D spatial concepts our use of the word “fragment“ implies two or more separate pieces splitting off into different places. In consciousness space there are no places, much less different places — that is a 3D concept that doesn't apply to consciousness or to NPMR. When our NPMR friends communicate to us we have no choice but interpret their message in terms of our PMR experience (vocabulary, concepts, knowledge, beliefs, culture). We get something that forces their meaning to be expressed in terms of our experience. The general content of the messages are typically conveyed accurately enough but don't take the details of the expression, e.g., specific words, to literally. When your guide says "Life is but a dream" interpret it as poetry rather than literal facts expressed in PMR 3D words. For example: "Life is but a dream" means life is nonphysical, all realities are nothing more than the product of consciousness or thought, just as dreams are.

One could also say that we are a “projection“ of our oversoul or one “specific instance“ of our oversoul, or that our life is a specific dream of our oversoul. These statements would be correct as well. That same 3D habituation gives us a tendency to think in terms of: if we are over here, then the rest of the oversoul must be over there — because it is a fundamental belief of our culture that all beings and all objects must be separate (no two things can occupy the same space). This leads us to mentally put the oversoul that is “over there“ into a chamber (3D spatial concept) where it is waiting for us to return. We and our oversoul are one. One consciousness with several simultaneous trains of thought. Each train may be undergoing different experiences in different virtual realities. Like playing two complex role-playing video games at the same time while waiting for your mother to fix dinner (that would require two computers and three trains of thought operating in three different reality frames). Note that none of the three are required to go lie down in a chamber or be ‘housed“ somewhere else and that all three realities are taking place simultaneously. Also, even though the lessons learned in each (such as: you do better if you work cooperatively) may flow over into the other two, all three realities maintain their separate integrity. The whole benefits from the cumulative contributions of each set of experiences (lessons learned) in each reality. Some realities may be more productive than others.
I know that this is very difficult to think about but I hope my comments help you out more than they confuse you. We often confuse ourselves by applying the implicit 3D assumptions carried by PMR words to our description of NPMR or consciousness or soul. Such conceptual errors are hard to avoid and more common than dirt — they are an occupational hazard of dreaming that you and you body are living together in some nice little virtual physical reality somewhere in the suburbs of NPMRville.

Tom

Thanks so much for clarifying. You are right. It's hard to get rid of the 3D thinking.

Since you mentioned that our consciousness is going through different realities/trains of thought all at once, I was wondering if it is possible to consciously perceive the other realities simultaneously while we're perceiving this PMR. The reason I ask this is because, a few months ago, I was taking a walk. My PMR physical body and PMR mind focus were focused on PMR while I was walking, but I also simultaneously felt another part of me being pushed "out of my PMR body". I felt a part of me stumble like physical feet stumbling on the ground, but my physical feet weren't stumbling. They were walking along normally. It was as if I was perceiving my PMR body, PMR focus of mind, and another PMR or NPMR body of mine being pushed. I have no idea why a part of me was perceiving itself to be pushed. I just felt it. Could I have been perceiving another virtual reality simultaneusly while experiencing this PMR?

Thanks!

TishAnna,

Yes, not only is it possible for you to sometimes glimpse portions of what's going on in other realities frames your oversoul is engaged in, but you can also experience any number of realities from NPMR, other PMRs, the past (e.g., past lives), the probable future, as well as share those being experienced by other units of consciousness with which you have a connection. First there has to be a connection because you have to intend and/or be open to the sharing of data/experience. To understand more about what you are experiencing, ask you guides direct questions that have short answers (like "yes" or "no" or other short simple replies). Your questions can be more complex but need to be straightforward -- carrying only one clear question at a time. For example, avoid complex vague questions like "why me?" or “What is going on“.

There is no reason you cannot be conscious in multiple realities at once -- your capacity for parallel processing (competently doing more than one thing at a time) is the only limitation. probe your guides to find out the meaning of your experiences, the connection that they have to you. and why these experiences are being shown to you (made available to you) now.

Tom