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 Post subject: Tao of Chaos
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:29 pm 
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Hi, has anyone read this book? I have it, and have read part of it, but am reading it anew. It seems important as far as PMR stuff like DNA and the I Ching, except the I Ching isn't PMR stuff, is it? This book is bringing them together. Anyone have experience? http://www.amazon.com/Tao-Chaos-Merging ... 1852308060
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 Post subject: Re: Tao of Chaos
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Bette,
Her book "DoubleBubble Universe" looks interesting. A reviewer on Amazon even mentions some compatibilities with MBT-I just may have to pick this up.

Her website links to MBT too:
http://doublebubbleuniverse.com/Links.html


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Bette,
Her book "DoubleBubble Universe" looks interesting. A reviewer on Amazon even mentions some compatibilities with MBT-I just may have to pick this up.

Her website links to MBT too:
http://doublebubbleuniverse.com/Links.html
Hm? Imagine that. :)
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Bette,

Thanks for the tip.
Quantum Physics is constantly making mainstream science scratch their collective heads. I've always felt that the true nature of our reality is more acutately described in the world of the very small, and we will never be able to find the truth by looking only outward through telescopes. We need to look within.

This from her page:
"…this TOE says that below the Planck level, the lower domain holds the larger mind of the universe within its 3D time & 1D space - or timespace. Our mini-minds above the Planck level communicate with it sometimes.

Awake, we know only the domain above the Planck level. We can tap into messages from this strange realm beyond the ego's limits...in our dreams, for instance. In dreams, meditation, remote viewing, channeling, and other altered states, we can tap into the domain below the Planck level, where giant universal mind resides. It is sometimes called tapping into the Akashic record, the collective unconscious, or the Oversoul. It also stores the resonances of what are sometimes known as archetypes, spiritual teachers, ascended masters, and so on."


One thing Physisists are consistantly finding at the root of all matter and energy,...consciousness.
I read a similar book years ago called "The Tao of Physics" by Fritjof Capra, Ph.D and it changed My life, and changed forever the direction of my search for the truth. Quantum Theories were still in their infancy stage in 1975, yet he (Fritjof Capra) was still able to find the comparison to what the mystics have been saying for 5000 years.

check him out here: http://www.fritjofcapra.net/


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I have that book too, and read it long ago, The Tao of Physics, you'd probably have fun looking through my bookcase, and me yours.
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Actually, other than not having the MBT perspective, she has it figured out. Where on her page did you find this? Look at the quotation made above with the insertions I put into it to point out a sort of 'translation':

This from her page:
"…this TOE says that below the Planck level, the lower domain [the Consciousness System] holds the larger mind [the One Consciousness] of the universe within its 3D time & 1D space [the Virtual Reality]- or timespace. Our mini-minds above the Planck level communicate with it sometimes.

Awake, we know only the domain above the Planck level [normal access to PMR]. We can tap into messages from this strange realm beyond the ego's limits...in our dreams, for instance. In dreams, meditation, remote viewing, channeling, and other altered states, we can tap into the domain below the Planck level [change our connection on the RWW], where giant universal mind resides. It is sometimes called tapping into the Akashic record, the collective unconscious, or the Oversoul. It also stores the resonances of what are sometimes known as archetypes, spiritual teachers, ascended masters, and so on."

Of course, that may be exactly why you quoted that bit.

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Ted, you did see the link to MBT on her site, yes?
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Yes. That is why I was curious about the actual source location for that quote. To see the context. However, she did not indicate a strong link to or learning from MBT or indicate being fully out of a PMR as a physical reality conceptualization either. I did not have time or inclination to read her whole book before commenting.

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Ted Vollers wrote:
Yes. That is why I was curious about the actual source location for that quote. To see the context. However, she did not indicate a strong link to or learning from MBT or indicate being fully out of a PMR as a physical reality conceptualization either. I did not have time or inclination to read her whole book before commenting.

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Go to the Double bubble link , at the top of the page there are links, at the left click "double bubble universe"

another page to check is at the top click the link for "the big shift" I found this:

"Here I present a theory on the coming global shift in consciousness. It is a synthesis of the three spheres of value that became separated at the time of the Enlightenment when (1) truth (as science) was separated from (2) beauty (as art) and (3) goodness (as morality under the law). This new theory reunites the spheres and becomes the matrix of a higher reality principle. In this ‘aesthetic phase shift,’ there’s a mutation of consciousness, matter, and global institutions. There’s a transcendental reduction and re-writing of history. In this shift, entropy is reduced and wholeness and complexity increase in a return to the quintessence.

This aesthetic shift is a cultural parallel to the Theory of Everything—or TOE—in physics that’s uniting relativity with quantum mechanics. It has implications for the evolution of consciousness, world culture, and a restoration of the global environment. It reveals that quantum wholeness, meaning and beauty unfold through space, time, and mind—not through mechanical, deterministic means but instead through analogue, aesthetic judgment. This shift is a fractal self-similar process that not only causes the universal ‘wave function’ to collapse but reduces mass and entropy as it unfolds higher information. This leads to a deepened knowledge of, and participation with, the creative unfolding of nature."


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I think I may do this I Ching recording journal thing this book seems to be suggesting we do to gather data.
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bette wrote:
I think I may do this I Ching recording journal thing this book seems to be suggesting we do to gather data.
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she is heavily influenced by the I Ching, I tried it years ago but It didnt feel right to me. It did'nt work for me. but you might like it. Keep us up to date on the progress.

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Well, the process as I understand it is to do the I Ching thing each day asking the personal question, and make a record of the pattern, and resulting data it generates. Then I suppose, I am still reading the book, one would need to do a regular journal too (this itself would be a behavior I've historically resisted). Then at some point correlate the two (if the do so correlate), I am assuming, as a data/pudding gathering tool.
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Bette,

I don't have I Ching experience, but I assume, that Tarot and I Ching are aiming at the same, reaching far into your consciousness and into Consciousness. I always have problems with a reading for myself. Too much known data, too difficult to distinguish between a wishful thinking and a consciousness information stream. At the same time it was easy enough to do readings for somebody else, especially with a very limited knowledge about this person or situation he is inquiring.

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Hi Lena,
Yes, I think the basic idea is to be getting info from the database, and in hind sight show how accurate it was that would remove all the ambiguity from it. Kind of going in with an expectation, but that is what scientists do when they test a hypothesis...

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Bette,
I dont mean to discourage you, but, I did have a lot of success (if you can call it that) with the tarot cards, in the past, and I did see many things predicted correctly. But I decided that (like Tom C.) I prefer to stay focused on the present.
Actually, I saw things that I didnt want to see and I could not prevent those things from happening. Even though I knew that the things I saw were the probabilities of events unfolding based upon choices that I made and was still making (at the time)
But seeing the future probabilities did not make my life any better or easier, so I decided that I dont want any more advance screenings.

"Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment."
~Buddha~

The only moment we really have is NOW. and the present moment, lived well. makes a better future and a better past.

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