I am almost done with the first book, Tom says that we evolve to become part of the AUM but without the duality we have now(am I correct on that?). Im a little confused on something, does the AUM have a limit? It is constantly creating IUOC's? When the IUOC lowers entropy enough to be joined back with the AUM, the AUM to IUOC ratio grows thus giving it more "processing power" to create? Does the AUM to IUOC ratio just keep growing or is it more like after the AUM gets more ability to process it creates another subset and then breaks off into more IUOC's to start the new subset?

I apologize ahead of time if the answer is into the book futher than I have read.

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We evolve. We already are part of AUM. AUM evolves towards Love, we as parts help it. The Larger Consciousness System and AUM mean the same thing to me here, right now.
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Well yes. Let me put it in another way, the AUM is not infinite even know it may seem that way to us right? Am I correct on my understanding that the AUM creates IUOC from its own "energy"(I couldn't think of a better word than that), is it giving part of itself in the process of making an IUOC?

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Can someone delete this post please.

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Lumpy,

I have written about this before. I am in the middle of moving and other things and can't create a new write up specific to your questions now. Bette is answering you correctly. I will try to hunt up a thread from previous descriptions as I have done this more than once. It is likely to be one of the epic conflicts with Claudio however as he insists that this is my model and not Tom's. I am in fact writing a very long chapter now which expands substantially on Tom's 'bootstrapping' outline as to details and explanations of how and which Tom has seen and made no corrections in so far. We must keep in mind that this is a model and a simplification of the reality.

To answer some of your questions for now in very short form, AUM is finite but not bounded. It grows as needed to accommodate more IUOCs and on into the 'future'. All of Consciousness Space is based upon the primary reality cells that Tom defined as existing as perturbed or unperturbed. AUM just puts data and code into another region of reality cells to create another IUOC connected to all the rest over the RWW. As all IUOCs are interconnected over the RWW, they all function together for the vast majority of CS state cycles as integral parts of AUM. They were integral parts of AUM before they were/became IUOCs. They became IUOCs as AUM provided individuated consciousness for them and created NPMRs and PMRs as VRs for them to experience and interact within. Then some of the total system states within AUM were devoted to our experiences in VRs. These interactions tend naturally to reduce entropy and improve QoC but very gradually. We are digital consciousnesses just as AUM is. We exist very much like a neural net that is studied here in PMR science. Our nets are trained by our experience, our interactions. It is not a matter of intellectual learning, something that we can study but of training based upon our interactions. All of this is basically stated by Tom, just spread over many pages.

Ted

I don't know an answer to this other than to say it is all One even now. It looks like Ted has an answer though.
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Bette

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Sorry I meant to say the aum is not infinite even though It may seem that way. I just caught it before you posted so I doubt you saw. Ok so when the AUM creates an IUOC it transfers awareness in a way from the big picture to a fraction of it? So conscioussness never really grows right? It is just being recycled constantly. Is Consciousness always using all of it's "energy"? Does it come to a point where it no longer has the required awareness to create more and keep track of everything that is going on, then waits so to speak till it no longer needs certain subsets, and then "recycles" them in order to create the newest subset it has in mind to further its understanding of itself?

Am I correct on my thinking? Im just trying to get a grip on what I have maped out in my head of all this.

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Consciousness Evolves towards Love, lower entropy, and with lower entropy there is more power to do work, so it grows in power, I'd say.
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Bette

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Makes sence, Hmm I wonder if the AUM has a clue what goes on outside of it. So all in all consciousness is only working towards love to gain more understanding of itself?

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Lumpy,

Don't think of energy being used by AUM in any PMR type way. The 'energy' is inherent to the basic structure of reality cells. The basis for AUM and what was there as the Void of mystics from the very beginning. They interact according to some kind of rule set much like a cellular automaton and we know and can know nothing about their energy of interaction. Consciousness is not divided in the way that you are phrasing it so that it will run out in some way. Precisely how digital code becomes conscious is known to no one at the IUOC level as I understand it. There are some hints in pure mathematics as it is studied here in PMR. But I believe that no one knows the way that 'program' is written.

AUM is not aware of what, if anything, that goes on outside of it. That is why IUOCs were invented. They provide the interactions that lower entropy and improve QoC that could have come out of external interactions, if there were 'anyone' there to interact with. Tom discusses this.

Ted

Ok I fully undertand what I was looking for now. Thank you for the help.

So we crave knowledge through experience becuase of the fact that it is what helps us to continue to grow our QOC. Do you think that when we grow to a certain point of QOC that consciousness will start to wonder how it came to be more and instead of continually growing, maybe search for it's orgins, or to put it another way, could it ever get bored? That just poped in to my head and Im curious to your opinions on it.

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Hi Lumpy:

Yes, in Tom's model (different from Ted's), IUOCs are created by AUM by dividing parts of itself. Energy in Consciousness is defined as the capacity to change information. The more energy available the more the capacity to change information. AUM increases its energy capacity by lowering entropy.

Claudio

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Hi Lumpy:

I recommend you to follow the book, because otherwise Ted's different model may confuse you and get you out of the original model.

Ted: To answer some of your questions for now in very short form, AUM is finite but not bounded. It grows as needed to accommodate more IUOCs and on into the 'future'.

Claudio: In Tom's model, AUM is finite and bounded. It does not grow (in space), since it lives from its own substance (Consciousness). Growing is something that Ted uses which I never understood. When asked in the past I did not get a clear answer.

Clau

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AUM is apparently infinite, but finite.
There is no transfer of awareness. Awareness is developed. An IUOC is not necessarily created by the whole AUM or the "head" of AUM as a metaphor. An IUOC or a group of IUOCs (still also a IUOC sincde defined as a subset of Consciousness) can create another IUOC. The most common scenario according to Tom is that an IUOC is created with very basic data and just the capacity to evolve. It is then submitted to experiences in VRs, so that it can evolve.
AUM does not grow as a spatial grow but it can grow its capacity by subdividing itself. According to Tom, AUM does not have problems of generating enough capacity. It is also capable of recycling, like you mentioned. Awareness is something that can develop by experience. I don't know if you are getting confused about awareness. Also, you may tend to think that everything is centralized. It may have been centralized at a certain point at the beginning, but it is now a very complex system, and it is not just the CEO doing everything but a whole corporation with multiple companies and branches, and those divisions can expand as well, and have their powers. It has a structure with multiple fractal levels. When a client needs help, it is not usually a CEO responding but somebody available in technical support, that may have actually volunteered for the job :)

Claudio

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I'm glad you understand now. Do not get pulled into this ego game, okay, unless you want to.
Love
Bette

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