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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:35 am 
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I was just thinking about everything that's been happening to me as of the last couple years... and thinking about what I've been experiencing and how I came about the realization to have those experiences, and I feel like MBT is the culmination of this "being lead around".

It's not a culmination as in "I'm now at the top of the mountain", because that would be silly ... that would be assuming that there's no more to climb after this. It's more like being at the top of the mountain, and then realizing that you have to climb back down so that you can climb another mountain again... an endless number of mountains.

I started off my journey on a forum called SpiritOnline, then it went down... and I found myself over on another forum called the Astral Society... then that went down... after which I found myself over on the Astral Pulse. Throughout all this I struggled over 10+ years to learn how to do Astral Projection, to experience the non-physical for myself. Not knowing that over the course of all that, I was slowly setting up my foundation through learning to meditate. Well, when I stumbled upon the Astral Pulse I found a dude there named Frank Kepple... I read and followed him in his experiments with trying to follow in the foot steps of Robert Monroe and he felt he was rather successful in doing so. His data was really my launchpad for my current situation of exploring the non-physical, so for that I'm grateful.

I still post there, and am a moderator there actually. Through posting there, I've now stumbled across my next challenge, the next mountain for me to climb... MBT. As I'm reading MBT, I'm realizing just how much my own experiences relate to the larger reality that's out there, and the reality that I find myself currently in, and I feel like I'm able to partake in it more. I'm learning more about myself, I'm learning how to control my emotions and my thoughts... making myself a better person, which is then reflected in the world around me. I'm able to see the GOOD in the world now, where before it was only "wow wtf is wrong with you!" kind of thing... just seeing the bad. I've made choices lately that have me reacting to situations in a more positive manner... although I'm still learning and still have a long way to go, as I've been prone to anger and being upset as well lately too.

But throughout this journey that I unknowingly set myself on the last couple years... as I reflect back on it, I see the trail of bread crumbs that, as Tom might put it, the system has left for me to grab in an effort to lower my entropy and bring myself into a greater state of consciousness. A more serene place... and I now starting to appreciate that, really, more than words could convey. :)

I guess I don't really have a point in posting this... except to just get that out there. )

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Awesome stuff Ryan. When our intent is to grow and evolve, it seems that we tend to get just what we need.

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Ryan, Justin,

It has indeed been my insight that I have been lead to where I should 'go' as in the right options provided and the right background and understanding to take and follow those options, make those choices. Sometimes very clearly so. No restriction of free will. I could have taken very much different paths and had pressures and incentives to take them. I have sometimes been able to observe this in others. It has been my feeling or insight that if I ever absolutely had to have some particular 'thing' but did not possess it, if I held out my hand in desperate need, whatever it was would appear in my hand. But things work better than that and I have never been desperate about anything. Things have always worked out, not as planned but as desirable. Difficult as this VR is, it was made specifically for our benefit and development. We are dependent upon the Consciousness System/AUM and in turn, the CS as AUM is dependent upon us for its purposes and success.

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Welcome my friend! You might find, as this experience goes on, the bread crumbs only getting larger and tastier. We All Sure hope So :-)

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Welcome my friend! You might find, as this experience goes on, the bread crumbs only getting larger and tastier. We All Sure hope So :-)

*drools* :)

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Ryan wrote:
I'm learning more about myself, I'm learning how to control my emotions and my thoughts... making myself a better person, which is then reflected in the world around me. I'm able to see the GOOD in the world now, where before it was only "wow wtf is wrong with you!" kind of thing... just seeing the bad. I've made choices lately that have me reacting to situations in a more positive manner...

This seems to be (for me at least) the natural side effect of awareness.
Tom says that "we dont need to get out of our body, our consciousness is already out of our body. We need to get into our consciousness"
The thing that really changed my awareness was learning about the unity of all things. There is only one consciousness, and it is everywhere. In every rock, every tree, every blade of grass, and every grain of sand. Even animals seem to respond to these changes in awareness.
I recognize the negative thoughts more quickly, in myself and in others. I become more intuitive, almost empathic towards the feelings of others. We do affect everything and everyone around us. (for better or worse, according to intention)
I may have taken a different road getting here, but, now we are "climbing the same mountain"
It is true that the results are really in the "pudding". I also see the affect my efforts are having because it is reflected in the world around me. And the more you know, the easier it is to learn. Learning is exponential. And we get better with practice.

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Great post, Ryan! I feel the same way and have seen very similar changes in my thought processes and ways of being over the last three years. I was talking with SS recently and said how nice it was to have what I called "travelling companions" along the way.

I am familiar with Astral Pulse and, in the past, read around a lot on there. I remember Frank Kepple's posts well and liked the framework he developed. The last I heard he had disappeared and there was some confusion as to what happened to him. Are you aware if he is still hanging around in PMR or what might have become of him?

Good luck in your continuing journey and I hope you continue sharing your insights along the way. There are definitely more mountains to climb, probably so many higher and more immense than we could possibly fathom at this point, but luckily I have always loved the mountains. I just have to remember to not get stuck by the beauty of one particular vista when so many more await. It is a joyous experience.

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Ryan,

I can relate to what you said here. I remember Frank Kepple's posts well and have a copy of some them on my computer. He made a big impression on me.

I also have feeling of have being lead to where I am now. Sometimes my head is spinning, because a huge chunk of data I would have in front of me, and I need to separate grain from chaff.

I've become aware of my fear, some beliefs, learned a lot about myself and keep on learning. It helps to understand more who I am and acknowledge some qualities that I used to believe are not part of me. I have accepted, that Lena is an infinitesimal part of my IUOC, and it was shocking and humbling experience. There is much more to learn yet in this experience packet, as long as I have time here, and it is many returns in a future. The more you learn the less you know. Socrates' quote " True knowledge comes in knowing that you know nothing''.

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Lena,

In terms of its long history and PMR packets experienced, yes you are only an infinitesimal part of your IUOC historically, out of all those past lives experienced. However as Lena as a being and FWAU, you are essentially all of your IUOC, devoted to experiencing this life as Lena. All that your IUOC has developed and learned, made of itself in those past lives, is the you that works its way through the daily problems of PMR as Lena. What you learn and develop here that your IUOC did not have prior to your experience here as Lena will be Lena's contribution to you as an IUOC as well as to the CS from now on. You will raise the platform above the level provided to you upon which your IUOCs continuing lives will be formed.

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Thank you Ted. This is uplifting. But to get to a point, where it can be a perspective, as you've described it, I had to hit a bottom first, to shake off my belief of how important I am. I hold very strong to my belief, and to become free of it I have to be hit by 2 x 4 on my forehead to see clear enough and be humble, and only after that I am able to go further. It hurts at times though. ;-))

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Lena wrote:
Thank you Ted. This is uplifting. But to get to a point, where it can be a perspective, as you've described it, I had to hit a bottom first, to shake off my belief of how important I am. I hold very strong to my belief, and to become free of it I have to be hit by 2 x 4 on my forehead to see clear enough and be humble, and only after that I am able to go further. It hurts at times though. ;-))

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Lena,
OUCH, LOL I can surely relate to that, another thing that I wonder, in relation to what Ted posted, is "am I making progress?" Or what I mean to say is, has my overall progress helped or harmed my overall level of entropy, as it stood at the beginning of this experience packet? Or am I still playing catch up? My overall progress is hard for me to accurately measure, because I have times where I make great strides, followed by periods of "normal" . It seems like 2 steps up and one step back.

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Patrick,

For most people, unless you are involved in serious free will destroying and criminal, evil behavior, you are still playing catch up to your previous level of performance in your latest past life at your age. Don't entice little girls or boys into evil and pay some attention to how you treat and interact with others and you probably rock along just fine. It is very difficult to figure out for yourself where you stand but well worth while trying to improve consciously. The VR of PMR was after all been designed to work even for the clueless. Not advising being a slacker, but it isn't something you need to be hung up about either.

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Ted Vollers wrote:
Patrick,

For most people, unless you are involved in serious free will destroying and criminal, evil behavior, you are still playing catch up to your previous level of performance in your latest past life at your age. Don't entice little girls or boys into evil and pay some attention to how you treat and interact with others and you probably rock along just fine. It is very difficult to figure out for yourself where you stand but well worth while trying to improve consciously. The VR of PMR was after all been designed to work even for the clueless. Not advising being a slacker, but it isn't something you need to be hung up about either.

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Thanks Ted,
Even at my worst I never was one to lure children into evil, "thangyouverymuch" (in an austin powers accent) LOL, so there is hope for me yet. I am hoping to "raise the bar" (or lower the entropy) a little this time around. And I say that as humbly as possible. ( lol again )

But seriously folks, sometimes I feel like I was so much more in touch with my true nature and purpose when I was 12 or 13 yrs old. Seems like I was so much more intuitive then and more certain of my "mission". It seems sometimes that I'm just beginning to regain the levels I already possessed when I started this experience packet. Isn't that wierd? Does anyone else ever get this feeling?

Ironic isnt it, that at the ripe age of 50, I have finally achieved the level of entropy reduction that I already possessed at the age of 10.


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It seems sometimes that I'm just beginning to regain the levels I already possessed when I started this experience packet. Isn't that wierd? Does anyone else ever get this feeling?
This is what I understand to be how it works. We die, our QoC is conserved although some more QoC may come in between PMRhere lives, but at death QoC is conserved, and we reincarnate with that QoC. But we don't have any belief systems yet other than air, we believe in air, adn that bright lights and loud noises might be scary, and falling. Those are the fear present at birth then. Then we are presented with "stuff" we interact with, and we build our Reality from our experiences with "stuff" in all the different contexts. On top of that all the Belief Systems (BS) we have built into our Reality layer upon layer. I think 50 was the old average to break clear enough to catch-up with what we are, I'm 51. I think this average is quickly going to shift to 30 because there are teens breaking clear right and left of us.
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Thanks Ted,
Even at my worst I never was one to lure children into evil, "thangyouverymuch" (in an austin powers accent) LOL, so there is hope for me yet. I am hoping to "raise the bar" (or lower the entropy) a little this time around. And I say that as humbly as possible. ( lol again ) peace
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Ted's example raises an excellent point, which is where is the bar regarding being an "FWAU in good standing".

Stepping outside of TOE-land for a second....Is the system sifting for an occasional Mother Teresa (symbolically speaking), or merely sifting at the other end of the bell curve and tossing out the real bad actors such as evil replicators?

and the question of trying to get a sense of how we are doing as individuals, which I suppose is just more ego, or as Chogyam Trungpa aptly put it...more "spiritual materialism".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritual_materialism

Ted's children example also echoes the words and warning of the Nazarene regarding leading the innocent astray, suggesting that this is the highest of crimes NPMR-wise

Matthew 18:6 "But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea. "

applying big physics to this, I would interpret this as a warning that once you take off the veil of PMR and translate back to your eternal IUOC self, "living" with the crime of encouraging an entropy vector in another as yet unformed PMR FWAU, could prove to be a very heavy and painful burden to bear.

and I don't think we are talking about child abuse here, which is "merely" victimizing a junior FWAU...which is bad enough...the higher and highest crime of all would be to train a junior FWAU to take pleasure in harming others, which creates a self replicating vector that projects even beyond the instigators PMR cycle, and beyond.

if this is the highest of crimes, perhaps the highest achievement would be to turn such an entropic FWAU from this behavior, resetting their course toward entropy reduction.

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