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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:17 pm 
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I think it was in the video of the California gathering ...? Or was it in this recent one in Charlotte...? ... Tom saying something that people say to him all the time "I dreamed of you and you said this and that and did that and that and thank you so much..." but that he never has any memory of it himself, and that further, he has somehow so configured things that if someone needs help it just automatically goes out ... as though he were lending the source code of Tom out on auto-pilot.

As for dreams, I've had a wheel-barrow full... some have several group members and others involve Just Tom, or more often, 'Tom-ness', or so it seems. ( I never totally rule out that some chunk of my own mind is processing data and using the sense of people symbolically). One that might be interesting to relate:

It was early morning and I was still more asleep than awake. A dream suddenly set in ... I could hear this steady repeating sound like a machine-punch chunking away about twice a second. It was very much like the sort of dream that gets going when there are real sounds in the room and images form in their wake ... as in if you hear a buzzing you might dream of a bee. Anyway, there appeared then an image, a close up of what I understood to be the whole digital framework. I was just seeing one small tiny chunk of it. It was like a close up of a bunch of little threads, each single and discrete, some branching out sideways, others extending on directly... like tinker-toys. And with each ska-chunk of the 'machine-punch', pieces of new thread would be added. I got the sense that only one piece could be attached to a site at a time... a single ska-chunk didn't add more than one new thread to any spot. Then I awoke thinking that there just HAD to be something in the room that was making this sound... but there wasn't. There was the feeling of Tom off in the distance instructing.

But getting back to the idea ... we are all in NPMR all the time ... it is a matter of tuning in, or of 'which data stream' you happen to be decoding at the moment. I would have guessed that, having met each other in person, where boardies have, that they would be having what amounts to telepathic events all the time.

Perhaps they are and are unaware of it..?

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Yes, in Charlotte he did mention the ability to program a part of yourself to focus on some task without your present stream of data containing this information. He mentioned programming a part of himself to be available to help people in NPMR and our ability to do the same thing concerning healing. The concept was to program a part of yourself to remain focused on healing someone and to continue doing so even though your stream of awareness was no longer focused on this activity. I found that to be a neat concept.

And as far as the gatherings in NPMR I have also had many experiences with this, and there do seem to be a lot of MBT folks present. Ramon and I have discussed this in the past as well. Sometimes the meetings seem to be discussion oriented, and often they have consisted of different exercises.


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Thanks for adding that in Robert, I was hoping someone that had been there would clarify.

I had another dream last night that I understood to be connected with this group. As always with this group, the place of activity is like a very large, almost Victorian style house, though not old.... there are a large number of large rooms that open this way and that onto each other, with several split levels and a sense of openness. The group was sort of dis-combobulated as, at any random moment, a small pony or a mule would come galloping through the room. Sometimes the mule would chase the pony; sometimes the pony would chase the mule, sometimes it would be either alone... always at a gallop and with the eyelight of those physical creatures when some sudden emotion causes them to launch into a gallop from a standstill. (For those that don't know animal gaits, a gallop is a pretty high speed affair, it sounds like 'ta-da-dump', 'ta-da-dump', 'ta-da-dump',). They did manage to avoid running over anyone but it was disruptive nonetheless... they would seem to hide behind curtains or on a balcony or god knows where and then suddenly launch into a room. People found that this made it hard to interact and so they mostly stayed off by themselves... I myself found a sort of sideroom that was out of their reach, and decided to take a nap, away from the noise and distraction. Presently though, two others came and curled up with me, as though seeking shelter themselves. One, a toddler, climbed up on my chest and curled up and went soundly to sleep. I wasn't too comfortable with this but it seemed to get such a sense of security that I let it stay. Then a third fellow showed up, tall and with a bit of drive, standing on the side of the bed and making it bounce some, as though gently trying to motivate us to activity.

The activity for me then switched out to another group.

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Returning to the opening theme of this thread, here is a quote from an early 20th century theosophical doc... one the more high-flown and consequential, Alice Bailey's (channeled) 'A Treatise On White Magic' :

................When therefore a man raises his vibration and builds anew from the beginning, and alters consequently his key, it results in dissonance in his surroundings and subsequent discord. Therefore - under the law - there comes always to the striver after the Mysteries and the manipulator of the law, a period of aloneness and of sorrow when no man stands by and isolation is his lot. In lesser degree this comes to all, and to the arhat (or initiate of the fourth degree) this complete isolation is a characteristic feature. He stands midway between life in the three worlds and that in the world of adepts. His vibration does not synchronize, prior to initiation, with the vibrations of either group. Under the law he is alone. But this is only temporary. When the environment satisfies then is the moment of anxiety; it indicates stagnation. The application of the law causes primary disruption.".............

http://web.archive.org/web/200305271717 ... i1110.html

It's presented in an extremely abstract and somewhat obtuse manner, but if one can get past that and also digest the language form, the book has a lot to offer.

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A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive. (Albert Einstein, 1954)

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WHAT!!!! NOT another river so Soon.....!!!! Well, what shall we do? Build a bridge across? Build a raft and see where it takes us? Or simply camp here for the night? - Montana's signature

great signature. One model I carry around in my head is that life is indeed a series of river barriers/crossings, or focused challenges, that we must work through to gain paradigm shifts in our understanding and efficiency, like moving along a rugged coastline.

Many get stuck on the bank and devote their lives to studying the river, some try to wade or swim across and get taken by the current. Some build rafts.

Others build boats strong enough to be left behind and help others across, and others again build very efficient bridges.

Another group burns the raft they crossed on, and invest much time in raft mocking, thinking because they no longer cross by raft, so no-one else should!

Some become students of these bridges and don't actually choose to walk across, or make the bridge the golden calf, and worship it, rather than walk across it.

this is not meant to needle anyone...I am guilty of most of these things myself.

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I pm'd Montana about his signature basically saying those are not the only options. You could keep going to see if the river narrowed, or if someone before you built a bridge, etc. It all depends on the time of day too. It is a cool signature, but limited in decision space. :)
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kroeran wrote:
A human being is part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. The true value of a human being is determined by the measure and the sense in which they have obtained liberation from the self. We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if humanity is to survive. (Albert Einstein, 1954)

http://www.spaceandmotion.com/albert-ei ... eology.htm



Randy,
Great quote, and a wonderful link.

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bette wrote:
or if someone before you built a bridge
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but I thought fair maiden, that thou forsake, smitted and farted in the general direction of all bridges of those that came before us ; - )

just teasing!

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Randy,
Great quote, and a wonderful link.


in keeping with the culture of Tom's intent, I would think all musings of famous scientismists on spirituality would be an area of special interest for TOE-heads.

a propos of nothing...wife brings home some birthday gifts from a girls night out...one of the joke gifts was labelled TOE -cheese (actually, it was marmalade) - and it was all caps, not Toe-Cheese

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