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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:56 am 
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twcjr wrote:
caffeine, sugar, nicotine, alcohol, pot, and all the other junk we find along the escape route to ease the pain of our failure to "get it" and "feel good" instead. ...Tom C
Dang, there go my mornings...

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I tend to cry when I read or hear Tom on these new pieces of him, I wonder what that is all about. Actually I had the same reaction to some things Seth/Jane said on the video Montana put on the board. Perhaps I'm a cry baby. Love Bette
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It's so funny because it's so true. Thank you Lynda, you are great.

You are welcome for the word OM, thinking about it, what good is a word if you don't share it. IF there were only one of us, would words exist? gedankenexperiment
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:23 pm 
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Ted Vollers wrote:
Bette,

Tom is commenting on the fact that during the past 250 years or so of the Industrial Age, psychotropic drugs were not fundamental to the development of society and the world view. Now, as what we might perhaps call the Information Age, psychotropic drugs, as well as the other things mentioned, are more fundamental to the development of society and our world view. Not that they are new, just more generally significant and fundamental to development.

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I've been wondering what psychotropic drugs are so I looked it up and here is what I found in case anyone is interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotropic_drug {SNIP}: "Many psychoactive substances are used for their mood and perception altering effects, including those with accepted uses in medicine and psychiatry. Examples include caffeine, alcohol, cocaine, LSD, and cannabis.[12] Classes of drugs frequently used recreationally include:

Stimulants, which activate the central nervous system. These are used recreationally for their euphoric effects.
Hallucinogens (psychedelics, dissociatives and deliriants), which induce perceptual and cognitive distortions.
Hypnotics, which depress the central nervous system. These are used recreationally because of their euphoric effects.
Opioid Analgesics, which also depress the central nervous system. These are used recreationally because of their euphoric effects.
Inhalants, in the forms of gas aerosols, or solvents, which are inhaled as a vapor because of their stupefying effects. Many inhalants also fall into the above categories (such as nitrous oxide which is also an analgesic)."


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Ted,

I wanted to ask you based on your posts regarding your so-called condition- ...are you sure that the back problem doesn't represent a "crystalization" (physical manifestation) of past beliefs/negative mental/emotional habits? I find it very difficult to understand how you of all people could continue to make what basically amount to 'excuses' for the condition of your body. You should know that applying a "label" to something makes it (at least in essence) an entity unto itself and therefore something "apart from" yourself that you must 'get rid of.' Your story actually convinces me that your health problems are indeed being employed as a feedback mechanism. It seems that they are trying to tell you, at the very least, that you are not taking responsibility for your ability to "live in" a healthy physical vehicle. Just because PMR isn't designed "for our pleasure" as you or Tom might say, doesn't mean that we need to suffer, except as that suffering teaches us HOW NOT TO SUFFER! Would you agree or disagree? I hope you realize I say this to you with all due love and respect.

Ted, would you consider reading, "The Nature of Personal Reality" by Jane Roberts instead of simply scoffing at the Seth Material and calling it "so general as to be almost meaningless" as you put it in an email. Why not give it a shot? This book is basically dedicated to making you aware of limiting and "invisible" beliefs that affect every facet of our lives (health specifically) without our even being consciously aware of it. I'm sure you've identified and eliminated many such beliefs in 'your time' and I don't pretend to be free of them myself- but do yourself a favor and at least consider the idea that you don't "have to" be unhealthy and it isn't necessary to label and therefore empower disease.

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Also,

Ted (and all) you should really look into the various styles of yoga. There are different varieties of routines out there for people your age who haven't done a whole lot of that. We westerners tend to take for granted the healing properties of yogic postures, stretches, and meditations. Yoga is all about balance and getting to the root of physical malfunctions while also being spiritually/mentally/emotionally uplifting as well.

http://www.abc-of-yoga.com/yoga-and-hea ... lderly.asp

http://www.inneridea.com/library/yoga-for-seniors

Also I wanted to you show you a little excerpt I found at some medical website:

"Yoga is one of the most effective forms of treatment for ankylosing spondylitis. It is a famous mind-body exercise which features a combination of physical postures, breathing exercises and meditation. Exercise and proper breathing are two important components of Yoga. It is found to be beneficial for people having certain health problems including back problems related to ankylosing spondylitis. Patients with ankylosing spondylitis may benefit from yoga. Yoga can provide a relief from pain and stiffness caused by ankylosing spondylitis and also helps to improve the range of mobility.

Various asanas (positions in Yoga) such as Vajra Asana, Dhanura Asana, Makara Asana, Bhujanga Asana, Ardha Matsyendrasana and Neti kriya help to remove rigidity and improve flexibility of joints and also correct bad posture. Pranayama is helpful for muscle relaxation as well as to improve the movements of ribs and changes in pressure within abdomen and chest."


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twcjr wrote:
caffeine, sugar, nicotine, alcohol, pot,
AeroLynda123 wrote:
Dang, there go my mornings...
I was only half-joking with this. Caffeine, nicotine and sugar have been part of my morning routine for 30 years now, I started drinking coffee with sugar at age 12 and smoking cigarettes at 13. So, these virtual substances may affect my virtual body and I am happy to accept that fact, but what does that have to do with my nonphysical consciousness?

I understand Tom abstains from a lot of the things I indulge in and I'm sure his purity is very good for his physical body, but what is the connection to consciousness? Why was it said (I forget if I read it somewhere at the Monroe Institute website or heard it somewhere else) that even a cup of coffee prior to an explorer session could affect the explorer's adventure?

I'm sure there's a better forum for this question but this is where I'm asking it.

Edit: 1/29/10 It is in Bob Monroe's introduction to the Explorer Series session #16 that I heard him say that about a prior cup of coffee.


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AeroLynda123 wrote:
twcjr wrote:
caffeine, sugar, nicotine, alcohol, pot,
AeroLynda123 wrote:
Dang, there go my mornings...
I was only half-joking with this. Caffeine, nicotine and sugar have been part of my morning routine for 30 years now, I started drinking coffee with sugar at age 12 and smoking cigarettes at 13. So, these virtual substances may affect my virtual body and I am happy to accept that fact, but what does that have to do with my nonphysical consciousness?

I understand Tom abstains from a lot of the things I indulge in and I'm sure his purity is very good for his physical body, but what is the connection to consciousness? Why was it said (I forget if I read it somewhere at the Monroe Institute website or heard it somewhere else) that even a cup of coffee prior to an explorer session could affect the explorer's adventure?

I'm sure there's a better forum for this question but this is where I'm asking it.
Hi Lynda
Try here, viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2694&hilit=diet, lot's of useful data.
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I would just like to add a few things about health that i have noticed in my research,im gonna number them in list form and be breif because if i dont i'll just end up hogging the thread and probably boring you.

1, The most long lived peoples in the world all have one thing in common, none of them are fat.

2, We should all be eating a whole foods diet consisting of minimally processed organic produce which should ideally be sourced from your local area and should generally be as close to the groups of foods your forefathers would of eaten in the recent past,the body seems to get used to assimilating groups of foods that you historically would of eaten and this should be evident if you look into metabolic typing.

3, Humans are designed to drink water, not things that glow in the dark or are blown up with gas.
Avoid all soft drinks and anything that contains Aspartame,Aspartame causes serious problems in the brain but dont ask Donald Rumsfeld because his friend owns the plant which makes most of the stuff and as im sure your aware Donald was instrumental in getting Aspartame passed safe.
The only exception to water i make in my diet is green tea taken without milk or sugar, i recommend green tea as many black teas contain flouride but green tea generally does not.
High fructose corn syrup is a major no no and a good way to incorperate mercury into your diet via the caustic soda usd to break the corn down,unbelievable!
http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/dangers.htm

4,Sugar is a deadly toxin to the body and is only around to make money,END OF DISCUSSION!

5,All disease is predominantly a lack of nutrition or toxicity in the enviroment,however mental attitudes to enviroments and mistaken beliefs surrounding occupational disease are the seeds that set many diseases in motion.

6, Avoid bread,period! it is just another cake, white bread is particuarly damaging and nutritionally devoid of anything worthwile.

7, Avoid breakfast cereals, anything that has been mashed to a pulp boiled pasturised and then has the lowest quality vitamin "fortification" added is not going to help, i find the fact that Kellogs and others get away with doing this staggering.

8,Avoid Flouride at all costs, a pea sized amount of tooth paste swallowed is enough to warrant seeking medical attention,just read the tube it says it right there!
It's the most deadly chemical we put in our bodies and yet we also put it in drinking water ,oh and by the way one glass of drinking water commonly contains the same amount of Flouride as a pea sized amount of toothpaste ,this does depend on where you live so please be aware.

9, Never use a microwave, microwaves alter some protein at the molecular level,switching the molecules to be a mirror of their intended state making them nutritionaly worthless.

10,Anyone wanting to lose weight should do so at a controlled rate, losing weight quickly can be very dangerouse as the body stores unprocessed toxins from the liver in the fat around your waist, if you lose weight quickly you will put huge stress on your body as you make the body process and eliminate all the stored up toxins. beware this chemical hit,very important!!

Finally i think it is helpful to look at your body like a single cell placed in a petri dish, if that cell was you, would you want to be around food that had been in a microwave or would you bath the cell in pesticides from commercially grown fruit and vegetables,all such exposures would lead to death yet we seem to think that its ok to poison our bodies and effectivly kill groups of cells by treating our bodys like dustbins?
If you kill cells in the body your body has to replace them and get rid of the waste,ok you say this happens all the time and happens naturally,please lets not give the body excuses to create unneccesary cell division and difficult waste removal options.

Let food be your medicine and water be the drink of choice,always.
Below is Masaru Emotos film on water,im sure many will of seen it but if you havn't it is a must see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKotfwpcvWM

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bette wrote:
Hi Lynda Try here, viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2694&hilit=diet, lot's of useful data. Love Bette
Thank you so much! Bette, you ROCK! Also from the Moral Code II thread: "Drug use (legal and illegal)
Many drug uses directly inhibit ones ability to reason making one for a period of time less rational and thus less able to produce the most moral of decisions that would have been available to them had they been utilizing the full potential of their rationality. Thus drug use falls under the category of negligent behavior in situations where the objective is the "high" sensation whether this is illegal drug use or nicotine and alcohol use. Theoretically on a desert island where no one else could be affected it would become an amoral choice however within society contact with others while intoxicated would be probable and to intentionally make one irrational would be obvious negligence."

So the next question is, nicotine and caffeine make me irrational? How do I know the opposite is not true? Maybe these substancse are expanding my consciousness. How can I know for sure?


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