I have seen people talking about Tom and Bob Monroe astral projecting in different rooms and having a supposed conversation. They then come back to the physical reality, and their recorded conversations almost match exactly. If proof like that truly is as easy as just "experiencing it", why are tests not done in controlled environments? If we all have the ability to have an OOBE and travel with one another, have conversations, etc, why is this not scientifically documented? It makes absolutely no sense, as doing this would validate the theory, it would be accepted into science, and discovery/progress in this field would skyrocket (something Tom should want).
i've skimmed through the first 5 pages and noticed no-one answered paradigm's very very simple question.
If I met Tom campbell and Bob Monroe, locked them in safely observed in 2 separate rooms, check for no hidden mics and cameras etc.
Then said a random word to Tom.
Tom the word is "BASKET".
"Now Tom you're locked in this room but go and tell Bob the word in astral state". Then hours later, "say Tom did you meet Bob successfully?" "yeah we met and I told him the word", "great!"
I go upstairs and speak to bob in the other room.
"Hi Bob did you meet Tom?" "yeah we met and spoke" "great!"
"What's the word Bob??"
".. er...er...i cant remember now, can we do it again??"
Thats the answer for you paradigm.
It never ever works under simple controlled conditions.
Unfortunately, James Randi may be an arrogant little turd but he still has his million dollars.
It would be exciting if all this was possible, but time and time again it fails.
As yet, it's never proved to work.
Your original question that no-one could answer sums up my bafflement with all of this.