a method similar to Raduga's (OBE4U.com), but potentially easier, developed in China

link to source below (quotation reordered for simplicity)



1. The best time to practice is after 4 or 5 hours of sleep.

--->> 2a) With your eyes closed, stare at the darkness behind your eyelids for 15-20 seconds. Try to pick up any colors, lights, or images, but do not strain your eye muscle. If you see nothing but darkness, that's fine. Again, we are not striving to induce dreams from the waked state, so do NOT force it. It is perfectly fine to not feel anything.

2b) Listen to the noises in your ears for 15-20 seconds. Chances are you will hear some light humming and buzzing sound. See if you can hear it more clearly. If you don't hear anything that's okay.

2c) Notice any strange body sensations such as heaviness, tingling, and movements. Pay attention particularly to the head, hands, fingers, abdomen, feet, and toes. Again, it is perfectly fine if you don't feel anything strange.


3. Find the most comfortable position and try to fall asleep as quickly as possible! The quicker you fall asleep the more likely you will succeed later in your dreams!

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You could also combine the practice with WBTB for maximum effect but it is not required. DO NOT do this at the start of your sleep -- it will NOT work! The only exception is afternoon naps since you enter directly into REM.

2. Repeat the following procedures 4 or 5 times. DO NOT attempt too many repetitions even if you don't feel anything. Remember you are not doing a WILD. You are simply setting things up for OBEs and LDs to occur at later point. If you repeat too many times you may risk losing sleep thus destroys the purpose.

The above steps should be performed in a relaxed manner, slowly, lazily, and without any rational thoughts. The 15-20 seconds duration is for your reference only, so do NOT count in your head! Chances are, after a couple of repetitions you will begin to feel sleepy, to the point your mind may drift away and forget to continue the exercise. Congratulations, this is exactly the effect we are after! When this happens just pull your mind back a bit and resume from where you drifted away. If you lost count of the repetitions then simply do a new set. It won't hurt.

What's going to happen

Several things may happen through this exercise:

1. After you fall asleep, you may suddenly wake up with a strange sensation. You will feel wide awake, and your body weightless. At this point just do a reality check and roll out from your bed to begin an OBE.

2. You wake up with vibrations and other strange sensations. Hung onto these sensations will lead you into an OBE.

3. You suddenly become lucid in your dreams with no apparent reasons, or you may begin to suspect you are dreaming.

4. You have a False Awakening. Unlike the first experience, you may feel awake but still drowsy. FAs will occur frequently with SSILD, therefore you should get used to it and become good at identifying them.

5. A WILD or direct OBE. Phase entrance may occur during the repetition, with your mind still awake. When this happens, many of the sensations become amplified. You should stop doing any further exercises, and begin focusing on the sensations until you successfully enter the phase.

6. If all else fail you can try the following technique as a last resort. Upon waking up again, which you eventually will after step 3, try relax your head and allow it to sink into the pillow. If done correctly you will generate vibrations and enter an OBE from a fully waked state. This works because SSILD has prepared your body and mind to enter a phase easily. In fact if you increase the number of repetitions you may be able to do this even before you fall asleep from step 3!"

http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/senses-in ... ld-129734/

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Does this PMR make my butt look big?

Yes, way cool. I've had a high rate of success with this basic technique and I would highly recommend it for people to try. It pretty much boils down to wake up early in the morning, meditate for a bit, then allow yourself to fall asleep while trying to maintain a focused intent of having an OBE. It works great before naps too. As I fall asleep while attempting this I like to focus on a point inside the frontal part of my brain, I'm not sure if there is any physical significance to this or if it just helps me focus my intent but it has worked great for me. I don't think it matters what you do exactly before you let yourself fall asleep as long as you do your best to get into a meditative state for some amount of time before you do. And as always it's important to minimize expectations and experiment until you can narrow down what works for best you :)

I have just reviewed your entire posting history. You are a very interesting dude, especially given that I am trying to knuckle down this year and make some progress toward OBE. I think this forum has been a bit under-invested as far as attention to how to breach OBE initially, and I am currently most curious about the lucid dream pathway, thinking it may be easier, more incremental.

I had one short bit of spontaneous lucidity a few weeks back but I guess woke myself up yelling "lucid dreaming" at myself in the dream. I am currently at the stage of recording dreams in a dream journal in search of my dream signs. I have written the word "dreaming" on the side of my wrist to try to implant the word in my subconcious so that it might turn up in a dream.

The other night I tried playing (mp3 mini stereo) on a loop "Am I dreaming" just loud enough to hear but not keep me awake, being reminded by some construction noise one morning that real life sound can be incorporated into the dream state.

It would be interesting if we could work out our own MBTOE kick ass breach method that blends the strengths of

- meditation
- binaural beats
- the early morning state
- dream lucidity concepts

I like the discussion earlier where you talk about meditation as a tool for dream control. I have a mental barrier, a sort of new age gag reflex, going back many decades, regarding meditation. I did some of it as a Christian and much more as a Buddhist, but it always bothered me that I did not have a clear left hemispheric explanation to justify the investment of time, and even Tom's treatment of meditation is a bit new agey for my taste.

I have long ago suspected that this challenge of gaining control of our mental chatter and attention, was somehow preparation for after death or OBE, as NPMR appears to be a ruleset entirely driven by mental intent....such that entering NPMR with no mental control would sort of be like dropping a chihuahua in the middle of a freeway.

The shambala method I learned is to just sit and pay attention to the out breath and this process of the mind clicking out into an unconcious dream state, the change itself being non-conscious, then waking up to the room and conciousness a few moments or minutes later, and noting this by saying "thinking", then returning to lightly trying to pay attention to the out breath again. Back and forth. Over time, the process puts you in the room with your breath more and more. It can be startling to learn how much of our lives are passed in an unconcious dream state. [I would recommend other readers to review all of EventHorizon's excellent postings for greater context to this comment]

I think if I can fully absorb this idea that the purpose of meditation is to complete the process of becoming a fully formed FWAU....completing the link between our Intent/QoC/IUOC and our interaction with the NPMR environment, I might be able to overcome my motivational block regarding meditation.

Perhaps the next step is to understand that PMR is "just" another operating environment and the same thing is going on when we meditate...we are exercising and strengthening this linkage, and similar to the interaction between our Intent and the NPMR environment, including our control of the environment, a strong "concentration muscle" should be able to increase our capacity to control PMR as well, which is in actuality, "just" another dream, albeit with a more restrictive ruleset.

Some questions....
- what is your bio?
- what is your lucidity/OBE background?
- how did you breach?
- what lucidity website forums, youtubes, books, instructors do you like?

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Does this PMR make my butt look big?

Superstitious people (like me) tend to call this method the 'stimulation of the third eye chakra'.

;-)

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"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."
- Max Planck

Thanks for the kind words kroeran. I just recently passed the one year point since I first read MBT so I've been thinking it would be appropriate to do a big post talking about what lead me to MBT, what's changed for me since reading MBT, and what I've learned so far through experience. I will definitely touch on all of the questions that you ask. So stay tuned! haha