Theoretically, if one day someone experiences and accepts his one-ness with everyone and everything, won't then his good deeds be in danger because of ego?

Is it selfish to love others if I know that in some deep level we all are one, so by helping others I am helping myself, too?

That's scary. My ego seems to be recursive, it hides everywhere, even behind itself :D

Is it even possible to exist in PMR and have completely no ego-driven motives at all? How all the great gurus feel inside, have they just suppressed their egos or have they got rid of their egos completely?

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Altruism becomes an illusion too, huh?
Love
Bette

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what is?
Consciousness.

Yes, exactly what I wanted to say.

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I am so very glad that the thought of registering myself in this forum came to mind.
Thank you, my larger self. :P
In my surroundings I do not have many people to talk spirituality/oneness/ego/consciousness with.

Anyways, this is what I am also starting to have a great feeling of. We must be very addicted to this reality, we are constantly giving ourselves reasons to stay here.
Anyone of you feeling as if you hade previous lives of already doing this? Or is it my ego trying to make me feel wise?

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Bob Monroe was big on this earth addiction concept...see his YouTube recordings

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I think doing good is PMR or ego speak for doing smart, incorporating the bigger picture

nothing to get uppity about, merely self interest, but big self, big science wise

selfishness is merely ineffectiveness

As body, mind and soul, we must tend to the authentic hungers of each, and discard the act of trying to impress everyone....which ends up being authentically impressive

very little is lost, and the price of giving people what they actually need from you is not expensive...you are constructed for this purpose

spiritual effectiveness ironically leads to material effectiveness, as well as material refocussing on your authentic needs

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Yes he sure was... He came up with the "Maintaining escape velocity" idea.
I have seen most of his recordings and also read his books.
I may be wrong, but I thought one of the biggest concepts of the Monroe Institute was to gather up escape velocity. Isn't that what the logo is about? The individual breaking out of this Time space illusion, or PMR?
Maintaining escape velocity = lowering entropy ?

I love your avatar and signature, kroeran =)

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don't know about the logo..could just be to represent OBE? I am not a serious TMI dude other than reading about it...there are others that can speak to that.

I have delegated meditation to the avatar, as I am too lazy/hyper to do it, ; - )

Seems that once you are at a certain point of Quality, the benefit of earth incarnation is a wash, but as Bob said, you come back for strawberries or whatever...you form an addiction to the earth experience, when you might be better off moving on to higher games - but this is how Bob was interpreting things from his framework

Tom's interpretation is more like a mission debrief, needs assessment, next mission selection, memory suspension/belief wiping, then deployment for another round of lessons working from the new higher quality set point

regarding your signature, I would say that peace and truth can be good, but chaos and beautiful lies may be more effective at generating quality

like, much of your life experience is a useful, virtual, beautiful untruth

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I'm sorry to say that TMI never talks about quality of consciousness. Their focus is about increasing awareness. They have had a bit of a shakeup recently so they maybe going to change that.

It could and probably is representing just an OBE =)
I agree with what you say about when at a certain point of CoQ, whatever I experience or desire to experience it always ends up being an illusion. Even love, it seemed for a while, was an illusion. It is my understanding now that love is not an illusion, only the major concept of love in humanity at this time is. Stroking eachothers ego, which never lasts. I sometimes experience this true dynamical love, and in order to maintain and make it last I need to let go of all the illusions I think I need and want to experience.
This may be my point of QoC at this time.

I can relate to Tom's interpretation a lot, but Bob's interpretation also makes a lot of sense. In deed Tom's interpretation may be more efficient and faster to move to higher points of QoC. It's kind of like more realistic, and free of illusions, while Monroe's is more trusting on emotions. And that makes the process slower, but more fun, imo.

About my signatures, well, I guess you are right. One of my greatest desires is to visit this PMR when QoC is at it's finest for mankind. Mainly of empathical reasons. And about the truth, well, it is a personal story. It may not be as efficient as lies and chaos to increase QoC. I now feel I must change it. =)

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I know this is off-topic but could you provide us with a link kroeran. I'm curious.

What do you mean by ego? Please define.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBM7Qeo5bg
He talks about it in these videos.

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Skorum,

Are you perhaps taking the idea of illusion as something other that this being a Virtual Reality simulation and thus an illusion. Words and their meanings are metaphorical and subject to definition. This is Tom's usual meaning in terms of discussing illusion.

Ted

I agree, words are always metaphorical. What I mean with my experiences ending up being an illusion is that the fixed idea of what an experience may bring is generated by the ego, and after experienced it turns out that, well yes it was just a fixed idea.

I will try to define my metaphors further.

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