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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:29 pm 
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Would like to know what you all think of protests? (the peaceful kind)

Reason I ask is that I may attend one in my local town this Saturday and although I get the feeling that in the big picture it may not be important, I get a feeling inside that I should stand up and be counted.

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Martin wrote:
Would like to know what you all think of protests? (the peaceful kind)

Reason I ask is that I may attend one in my local town this Saturday and although I get the feeling that in the big picture it may not be important, I get a feeling inside that I should stand up and be counted.
I am all for peaceful protest, and if I ever have the resources I will support getting people that want to do so to them.
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You have the right to express your free will. If it doesn't interfere with the free will of others then I don't see any issue.

One thing you can do is ask yourself why you want to protest, and why you want to stand up and be counted. Is it a reason that expresses love, or fear? Is the feeling you have true to yourself or is it a manifestation of your ego? This is just self-introspection that I find useful to do.

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Instead of focusing on "the act of protesting" focus on what your intent is, and what you want to achieve with the protest.

Besides that, it's hard to comment on what I think on protesting in general, as one can protest about anything. As always, look for the intent.


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specialis_sapientia wrote:
Instead of focusing on "the act of protesting" focus on what your intent is, and what you want to achieve with the protest.

Besides that, it's hard to comment on what I think on protesting in general, as one can protest about anything. As always, look for the intent.

Peaceful was the operative word for me. :)
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bette wrote:
specialis_sapientia wrote:
Instead of focusing on "the act of protesting" focus on what your intent is, and what you want to achieve with the protest.

Besides that, it's hard to comment on what I think on protesting in general, as one can protest about anything. As always, look for the intent.

Peaceful was the operative word for me. :)
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Peaceful is a pretty neutral word. It doesn't really imply anything about the desire or ideology (if there is one) of those protesting. For example, neo-Nazis in Europe or Fundamentalist Christians (e.g Westboro Baptist Church) in USA can still protest "peacefully", but if you look at their intent, it becomes obvious (to my anyway) to what stance to take.


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It sounds fun, i would be apart of any protest if there would be lots of interesting stuff happening and girls.

As far as to be heard. Not sure if they are worth while, could be i don't know. Is voting usefull don't know.
If something is not going the way i would prefer with a organization i just get away from them and do my own thing.
If it was a situation where i could not get a way from them. Like a lame teacher in school i would make every thing as a joke to make it fun.

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Non-violent then. Using pertinent information and presence to make a point that is acknowledged leading to a more level playing field.
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I for one know that I am no better than anyone and no lesser and so I stand sovereign in this, I have neutral emotions about the meet up, it is not classed as a protest as such, it will be people that are fed up with corruption and fear mongering of the system most are poisoned with on TV and various forms of media and so the group will hand out various fliers and also use megaphones, they will stick to common law and will not cause harm, injury or loss to anyone there.

At the moment in the UK we are experiencing riots and will be in the major city where police presence will be high, my intention is to go there and feel, this may sound strange but I see a corrupt system and I know that I have to take responsibility due to the way I live, using oil, electric, wearing labeled clothes using internet etc and so the group will try get the message of this to members of the public and make them aware in a comedic way, that they do not have to work on there image and just do be them selves.

We will expect police presence and I for one see these people as peacekeepers appointed by us the people to protect us under there oath, sadly for a lot of these people they get bought into acts, statutes etc that are made for one thing and that is to collect revenue for the courts and make them money and so turn from peace officers into revenue collectors, I know my country has taken and divided land amongst themselves and take others as well for there greed, we only have to look at the war in the east and how we illegally invaded them for profit and gain.

Why have they taken land and believe they have a right over there fellow man, well this is some thing that interests me, who are these people in power and what is there lineage? what lines do they think they come from and why do they think they have divine rule over others, the divine is what I wonder.

In the UK we have the highest amount of CCTV, it seems our rights are being effected everyday, the riots where over a black man that got shot by police, he was armed but did not fire his illegal weapon and I have a feeling that this is an excuse to bring in martial law, they know tensions are high in our mixed communities and the littlest thing puts pressure on certain minorities, they had to take down cctv cameras they put up in our predominantly Muslim area of the city due to all this terror they pump out to everyone and so the police are not welcome in parts of the community.

I myself only witnessed the rioting on TV, it was violent and destructive and innocents effected, i saw levels of unconsciousness from the raiders and from people that spoke to me giving there opinion on why (most where blaming it on there skin tone), most of them opportunists and wanted to loot goods and stopped at nothing.

The rioting seems to spread all over the UK at the moment, but if you zoom out you may see unrest on the earth, are people waking up and realizing that we are being manipulated? some Religious folk say its end times, the conspiracy guys say its the NWO, both are interwoven from what I see, both point to the idea of non human activity, anunnaki, fallen angels etc, I personally have no idea and have looked into many types of info/disinfo, what ever the case and how ever it plays out I see a lot of paranoid people online, in my reality bubble the people around me do not see anything and what some people would say are asleep, question I faced is have I been brainwashed and why do I feel I am the only one that feels they are more than this body and there is something more.

What ever the case, I know by some we will be tarnished by the same brush as the rioters and expect the police to be edgy, but I shall go with the intention that I belong with those that want people to know that we see things wrong with society, they are not the makeup and clothes and TV false image and no part of a system that wants to invade others for profit, I feel we are in levels of slavery and are all guilty to some extent.

I know people have power and can change events but most sleep and so manipulators are doing there thing, who are these manipulators and is this part of there agenda? or is this collected unconsciousness and Ego, am I the one brainwashed or asleep with my Ego pointing the finger outwards.

I finish on a few vids from people I know that do this stuff regular, and this again is not protesting just voicing opinions in public.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDh0Cvsw9Jk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mire2kJX ... ideo_title

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I read an article published in Britain about these riots and their causes. It was commented upon that the perception of the rich, and here we are talking the very rich with their identities hidden behind their possession of vast wealth through trusts and screens, was changing away from thinking that Britain was a safe place, subjugated, and it was being realized that their suppression of the poor and minorities and reduction of social services was creating extreme pressure. They were realizing that they did not have the safety there that they thought they had and that this was happening in other countries as well. This historical manipulation of society by the very rich who basically conceal their wealth and power, has been lately very successful in making these very rich much richer and the poor much poorer. But the stress is showing in various societies including Britain and the US. Information is much more readily available throughout the great mass of society that is normally manipulated by controlling and manipulating their information through the normal media. Much of that stress is directed at those among the great mass of society that are just slightly better off and thought of as the rich. Shop owners, factory owners and managers and such. They are the visible part of society but not the truly rich. The truly rich stay hidden and conceal their extreme wealth. If their extreme wealth and the manipulation they create with it, buying our governments and elected representatives and manipulating the thinking of the masses through the media, then perhaps 'the people' will demand that they begin to share their great wealth through permitting higher taxes. Society is being induced to fight within its own ranks instead of realizing that there are those very few who are so wealthy that they feel they have a divine right to rule, whether they think of themselves as 'kings' or just special people, not like everyone else. As the reputedly Chinese saying goes, we live in interesting times.

I managed to find that article again. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/ ... 3X20110810 Actually Reuters American edition written by a Britain based correspondent.

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the so called rich love this entropic dissipation of energy (street protests)

anything to serve as a distraction from the actual levers of power and to maintain the labour pool of Macdonald's kitchen staff.

the first step towards physical power is to take up legal martial arts and weapons training, though I can't think of any practical low entropic use for this skillset for most environments...well, Florida maybe ; - ) [more importantly, work toward a TOE-ist diet]

the first step toward economic power is to buy and operate a sausage stand or get something going on ebay or craigslist, and see if you can figure out how to be a free capitalist rather than a wage or salary slave (don't quit your day job though...as my wife has been saying all my life) or parasitic lips on the government teat

the first step toward political power is to get involved with neighbourhood park committees or councils, municipal elections, join your provincial/state political association, and see if you can figure out how to herd those cats and generate some organizational entropy reduction, before taking on planetary management

the first step toward big picture power is to begin to meditate for 1 minute a day to open up to your awareness the hidden NPMR "universe", and resources within, that will inform your intent and animate your physical, economic and political power. [try to work up to 20 minutes twice daily according to Tom]

then you will become something that the so called rich fear, rather than a comic nuisance to be swatted

that being said, did the street protest thing myself...its just something you do in your twenties, to alleviate the boredom of physical, economic and political entropy on all levels

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Martin wrote:
I for one know that I am no better than anyone and no lesser and so I stand sovereign in this, I have neutral emotions about the meet up, it is not classed as a protest as such, it will be people that are fed up with corruption and fear mongering of the system most are poisoned with on TV and various forms of media and so the group will hand out various fliers and also use megaphones, they will stick to common law and will not cause harm, injury or loss to anyone there.
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Just as I read this part I wondered "He is probably familiar with the Love Police and Charlie Vietch". Since you linked to it I don't need to ask :-)

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am I the one brainwashed or asleep with my Ego pointing the finger outwards.
That's a good question, but even more important that you can actual ask it. In my observation, those "brainwashed" and motivated by fear and ego wouldn't even consider that question, so you are less likely to be, but of course you have to find that out yourself.

In the face of injustice and also in general, action is preferable to inaction because the experience provides opportunity for growth. Good intent has to be actualized for it to have any significant change in your being.


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Thanks for the replies all.

kroeran, I'm in a lucky position at this time and tick most them boxes, for some reason as a kid i always thought i was in training for something and so went through many martial arts styles, luckly never using them also I am slowly trying to detach myself from this system and also subtly diverting my young children's minds to out doors and away from the TV, and so creativity and getting them involved in growing food has been a great experience and also a deep one, but with some of my family they seem to defend there system and so my efforts in showing them the example will be more beneficial when they see a change within me as speaking to them usually ends in heated mindlessness or on occasions looked as if I have the problem. Diet wise I have cut my intake of sugar and changed certain foods, as I grow my own food I am lucky enough to have a good diet, cows milk I barely touch and wondered why it wasn't mentioned on toms video about certain foods, the way I see it is that we are drinking the milk from another tampered creature, its been messed about with hormones etc, I look at it as if they want people to act like cattle then let them drink from cattle, sounds strange perhaps. saying that I do love my butter :)

specialis_sapientia, yes they got me through some of the dark conspiracy and seem to uplift me, Danny (spiritualentertainer) I favor due to his way of saying don't believe anyone and like most admits not to have a clue what is going on although he had looked into many areas of info/disinfo we all face. Danny has been in many of my syncronicities and helped with his not knowing. The sovereign aspect is a deep knowing and one highlighted when looking into many topics such as the freeman idea and its knowing that each one of us are equal, this has often gave me harsh lessons in my past with my ego, my battle with body image and steroid abuse and my male chauvinism phase in my early adult life, all lessons that I am grateful for.

msagansk, for some reason I feel a duty to stick up for the little man and hate to see people being taken advantage of.

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