Hello, I am new to your sight and I am a bit lost. but earlier today I read something on Free Will. Since I have looked at this topic, have examined trurly I have some reality on the subject. So I post it here. Thank you. of course please erase it or put it someplace else as you wish. Erzsebet.

FREE WILL, do we have one? There are many variety- selection- assortment of everything available and which ones we settle for which will we have on the end?

One is being led steered driven motivated directed by the strongest stimulation inspirations available at all time, as like in bee line we follow the stimulation as it flows and there is no choice in the matter. [ from item to item we go, follow the energy line ] Example: in restaurant, one choses from the menu the most stimulating dish, the most mouth-watering dessert which appeal to all our senses, we chose- select the car which we finds most appealing, as in color, style, we choses a pair of shoes a dress a suit the same way: Which item on the display has the strongest appeal; one buy the one which delivers the most affective stimulant.

This goes with everything: where we go, take a vacation too: mountains or by the sea, when we hand-pick fruit and vegetables which we buy one piece at a time: those we buy only which stimulate our senses the most.

Even the partner we choose to be in our life, in or out of bed: will have to have the qualification the most stimulating, exciting person we meet, as in looks, stimulation as in sexually, and mentally has to be adequate, be suitable, be satisfactory in every passible requirements :to have similar reality, agreement with our own believes...

. [Parents choosing partners for their children has been rebelled against for this reason, since there is no stimulation existing for self, by one’s own choice, reality.]

We do not choose our self but we continually follow the most stimulating motivating exciting, inspiring energy flows which deliver the impact we need to experience in order to function; experience = to feel that we are being alive at all times [ when sex stimulation wears off, new partner is acquired or heavier stimulus: is being brought in to excite -enliven the senses again once more ] .

We believe we have FREE WILL, but that is an illusion. The strongest energy flow- the most stimulation pulls us: as in selecting everything in “our life,” from buying a house as in what location and style or in choosing a occupation: has to be as exciting, motivating, interesting: have to be as in pay =as rewarding + worthwhile+ valuable.

In other word: do fits in, satisfies, stimulates fulfils the right way, do achieve our needs.[ one always chooses the heaviest stimulation, example: a man choses a woman he know she is no good, a woman stay with a man who beats her= and can delivers that heavy stimulation at all times which is required as in bed partner too. Too much stimulation or not enough causes the divorces.]

Just think, what kind of woman draws man like bees to the flower? What kind a man who pulls in woman by the dozens? Violent movies, news have lot of followers— since they have heavy energy. Those who need to have the continual heavy energy flows to be stimulated, not likely read Fairy Tales, or watch “Sword in the Stone” by Walt Disney ]

There is an interesting thing happens as children grow become teenagers: they insert-introduce into the family unit their own”NEED TO DO, MUST FALLOW” their own energy stimulation requirements and that causes the rebellion against the already established parental energy flows-lines which of course the parents do not want to give up.

While one is here on this Planet, is ruled by the energy flows of this Planet..

This is my reality of course, as always and this topic has much more to it than I care to write about

Erzsebeth,

Welcome to the bulletin board. I have relocated your post here as more appropriate and given it a simple title. I look forward to hearing further from you.

Ted

thank you, you are very kind...

Here are a few previous entries from Tom that may help.

Real influence may limit choices, but influence does not erase free will. Absolute influence kills free will by definition as does zero uncertainty (zero unknowns as you say), but absolute influence is like infinity and zero uncertainty — an abstraction that cannot live in a real, viable, actual, or useful world — i.e., a world that has the potential to evolve. Conclusions based on these abstractions don't apply to you, me, or a bumblebee. You may sometimes feel boxed in by influences, but you always have choices available to pick with your intent guided free will. Inevitable when considering the rules of AUM, free when considering fractal evolution.

Free will action follows intent — intent has many choices, and each choice is full of unknowns — intent is for most of us an expression of our state of incompleteness and ignorance. There are lots of random components (fluctuations) about any instantaneous animating intent — forming up an intent to guide an immediate requirement for action/choice is not a precise process. Our calculations are bracketed by lots of error bars and represent a statistical process much more than a precise or deterministic process


It appears that there are no choices when you do not consider the ability of the being to change itself, to grow, to decrease its entropy. Our intent changes and thus our array of possible choices change because we change — we grow up and become someone else as we change the quality, the entropy content of our consciousness. When you think of a static (non-growing) entity it appears that new choices are hard to come by — they are who and what they are. Yet, because there is free will there are always new choices, better choices, we just have to grow up enough to grab hold of them and grab hold of them so we can grow up. No chicken and egg problem here, they both happen (evolve) together. Epiphany! Satori! Our desire to grow, evolve, and improve ourselves interacting with our free will delivers many (some large, some tiny) “eureka“ or ahhh ha moments (some almost unnoticeable in their more typical micro form) which accumulate and enlarge our decision space (provide a larger set of choices). This is how we are able to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps — the magic of self-focused evolution trying something new on a chance of increased productivity (growing up, decreasing system entropy). Only dead stuff (no consciousness/no free will) doesn't have the capacity to grow (improve itself) and deliver up a whole new set of bigger and better choices.

Is not the act of choosing by a rational person following conventional reasoning simply picking one of the available possible choices within its decision space? The intellectual act of choosing when completed leads to a decision — a commitment to some action, a choice, or conclusion which is the result of the choosing. Does not the verb choosing pick a noun choice from the available possibilities? If a choice was not plucked from the available possible choices, then the actual choosing did not yet take place and is still in process. It appears to me that free will gives the intent of a rational person following conventional reasoning the freedom to choose from the available choices.

A rational person applying conventional reasoning always has choices even if they cannot list them (enumerate them with their intellect). A failure to be intellectually aware of their choices is a failure of intellect and awareness, not a failure of free will or a lack of choices.

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