We as FWAU and IUOC are always aware of being a consciousness, but according to PMR rule set this awareness has been blocked temporarily to have a better and stronger ability to reduce entropy and gain QoC. There is no pain in a bigger picture, since there is no physical body in NPMR. We get hit hard because of our stubbornness and a lack of desire to learn from our mistakes. Pain indicates a wrong direction in a learning process.

Think about a small kid who has never learned, that to touch a hot stove or stick a finger in an electrical outlet can hurt and may be dangerous. This is exactly what happens to us when we get hurt and have a lot of pain as a result of our unsuccessful experiences with others. Learn your lessons and no pain exists. Of course, if one gets cancer or break his leg pain comes as a part of PMR rule set. Our physical body hurts to let us know, that there is a danger or some kind of illness present here. Those are two different types of pain, though they could be felt exactly the same, if we are not able to see a reason behind this pain.

Lena

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'Real knowledge is to know the extent of ones ignorance.' Confucius.

I would agree with that Lena, but i would also add that random things happen outside of our scope of influence, and direct control. And sometimes the pain can be unbelievable in an overwhelming way, our state of evolution with dealing with these issues come into play. This growing up is a very painful process in this PMR that seems to be necessary for us to stay on the right path. My sincere hope is for us to diminish this fear and pain to a point that it is no longer necessary for us to continue our path towards love. When and if that will happen i do not know. It really does seem sad to me sometimes that this is how it is right now, it has never set right with me. I really do not have any answers for anybody on this very personal issue other than to find creative ways that suit you, out of your fear and pain, that moves you towards LOVE. Grief is i think fundamentally the worst pain we can process here experiencing in this PMR. Sabby

I have read about near death experiences. One man had interviewed something like 600+ people who had experienced a NDE. By far the majority of the experiences were very similar, but with some variation in the images seen. The feelings almost always seem to be very similar. In one book I read, the lady who had the NDE, said that we existed before we were born and had agreed to come here. She said most make, many, many lives here. That struck me because it jived with what Edgar Cayce had said about us all being a part of God and that we would return to God. I think that makes a lot of sense especially after reading MBT (or at least most of it). MBT answers the why would we come here, to help reduce the entropy by expanding the consciousness. Those who have had the NDE seem to visualize things differently, like God and Jesus.

I have personally not found anything to date in my experiences that MBT has not put in logical order. I am looking for things that it can not explain and answer, or where it does not jive with my perception of reality. I can see where things could quite possibly be added to expand this model. This working model is working like a charm for me. As far as NDE`s go, MBT easily explains those. Sabby

I know, it is a very solid theory IMO. I have been a pretty deep thinker all my life. I knew the answer was inside of us and not out in space somewhere (Einstein got pretty for with mind experiments). I had come to the conclusion that this whole thing was driven by differences in localities, kind of like the weather. If all the weather was the same pressure, same humidity and same temperature, we wouldn't have any weather. I figured it was the same for space. I had even considered (like holographic universe I had read about) that it was all a projection. But I had never really thought of those things together or considered the real answer to be outside of this reality. Tom breaks down the mechanics to a digital concept, like the ying and yang or 1s and 0s. If there are only 1s, our computers wouldn't do anything. But a nice mix of 1s and 0s makes for an infinite amount of things computers can do. I love that concept. It is a very simple, yet infinitely complex mechanism. It easily explains spooky action and quantum eraser, which seemed likely to have a nearly incomprehensible explanation.

Yes i agree the answers to how reality works is not going to be found by breaking matter down, that seems to exist in space and time. This materialist ways of doing thing is very very limited, i have been studying QM long before i came across Tom`s work, and just about all of the scientist except for a few could give no understandable explanation. Even Richard Feynman a brilliant mathematician kept telling people you can not understand QM. I personal have never had a very hard time understanding QM, this is one of the things that fall out of the model, as to make QM as clear as light, and that includes the eraser experiment. This is not an objective reality it is subjective and informational, the predominate materialist way of thinking is that everything has an objective answer. That is why we have been stuck so long in thinking that matter is all that there is, and that consciousness arises from matter. They have had it backwards for quite some time, MBT is a ground breaking theory with Tom at the lead. That i think is going to blow this old way of thinking completely of its socks. The truth is not fragile but our egos sure are. Sabby