Interesting. The first Star Wars movie came out when I was ten, and I went to see it nine or ten times. I saw the next two and then my interest dropped off. But I sure did get "into" that first one! Too cool, Ramon! Have you done any of the studying Lloyd mentions?

Lynda,

If you mean studying up on left-handedness, then no, not really. I have read quite a bit about the differences in the brain hemispheres and have noted that I operate in both fairly well but tend to be more right brained which correlates with the left-handedness. Remember, we are the only ones in our right minds!

Ramon

Hey guys-

noticed that something about 'being left handed' was mentioned. I have an interesting little story regarding that topic myself. When I was very young I apperantly started writing by using my left hand initially. For one reason or another, and I have no doubt; out of love, my family decided to "train me" to write right handed. They must have basically taught me that writing "right handed" was actually the proper way to go (which it really is in our culture where we write from the left side of the page to the right side) and did it in such a transitional way that I don't even really remember this time period of "re-training." But in later years, in middle school for example- I noticed that I had a natural inclination to adopt what were considered "lefty poses" before running or jumping etc... I do wonder what effects that may have had at a more "psychological" level. But it definitely isn't something I consider "too big a deal"- just has interesting implications at one level.

-cole

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Try writing with both hands at the same time, not backwards like that, but just normally, okay? Then report back as I need to know, please? Just report what you experience. Humor me, okay? Thank you in advance Cole. ;)
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Ok I started doing my research and so far here is what I found. Some notable famous lefties include Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey and ... Albert Einstein! I guess we're in good company, Lloyd, Ramon and Cole! Anyone else?

Hey Folks,
This left handed thing seems to be stirring some up some attention and thoughts. Maybe an idea to get a separate thread going on it in a different section so it can draw more attention and be more of a benefit to the whole community? Come on guys help me out here I'm new to these here parts and need to focus on the BIG game as i only have limited RAM capacity and time which easliy gets swallowed up! And i don't want to let anyone down.
Cole you touched on something that i keep hearing from people first hand. This business about in the early days of schooling when we're being taught to write using our right hand. I seem to vaguely remember some similar experience myself (can't remember much about my childhood but i can remember my first day of school though, well about the first minute of it.Clinging to the door frame by my finger tips with my Dad trying to drag me in to the classroom whilst I'm screaming "don't make me stay Dad!!!". So probably not the best start to education I'm sure you'll agree!). Anyways my point being that from what i can gather that up and till very recently it has been the direction of mainstream education to(and i use this term with a abroad spectrum of definition as i have heard one or two horror stories about this( attitudes in education systems have mellowed over time))forced pupils to write with their right hand.You quite rightly pointed out Cole, that it may of had some psychological effect. As having the spotlight on you and being made to feel 'different' and that you can't do something as well as everyone else, would kinda put us at a disadvantage from the word go.But as you rightly pointed out again, would of been done with right intentions. It makes me wonder just how many people are out there that are natural right brainers without knowing it.
Lynda you said about your being Dad a Leftie also. Well I haven't heard anything that connects this to being the norm, however as i said previously i haven't gone in to left handedness that thoroughly. But what i can say(from my own experience) is that lefties do seem to get on really well together. Infact a friend of mine commented on this not so long ago. In my mid to late teens, the circle of friends i spent the majority of time with were more than half lefties(statistically as approx only 8% of global population are lefties).This must say something?. I'll just share another moment of humiliation at school with you(just popped in to my head). Sport this time,football or soccer(to avoid confusion). I was 'told' to take a corner kick by my teacher(I didn't want to do this as i could only really kick a ball with my right foot and it was from the opposite corner to which i was comfortable with). Well i took the corner kick an it just spannered off pathetically behind the goal, to which the whole football field fell about laughing. The point I'm making with this is that when the majority(and thinking about it is true in so many aspects of life) appear to be doing something well together(i.e the righties) ,the lefties seem to get left out and ridiculed for being 'different' and think it would serve as a huge disadvantage in a child's development(or an adults come to that) and could potentially mentally scar them.
I think that left handedness has been recognized now(in some areas) as a fundamental difference in people and is being addressed by some education systems.

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Hey Ramon,
Thank you for my warm welcome and the encouragement. Yeah know what your saying bud about the prequel films but they do grow on you in time. I introduced my 4 year old daughter to them some time ago and she seems to heartily concur with your sentiments also :). Think it's difficult for actors and film makers to better the performances using CGI as apposed to full size sets but i guess it's like most things in life now,it has to be done for maximum financial return. The third film (cos of life events) really does hit the mark for me in some places but in others is shockingly bad. Don't know if you read my original post but i really do think there is more to these films than meets the eye(especially in light of current world politics). Hopefully in the future a thread will get going on this subject to spark up others thoughts on this subject.

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Hi Simba
I know exactly where your coming from regarding the attention span stuff. Think with the sheer volume of choice of information these days we've kinda conditioned our selves to be this way. It wasn't until recently(since starting to read MBT(especially at work)) that my mind started to wander off whilest reading and think alot of that is down to not reading at all.I find video by far the easiest way to digest information. When i first became a dad i was struggling to read my daughter her bed time stories. It wasn't that i couldn't read,it was just that I'd gotten out of practice. It's getting better now though and is SO important to take in all that is written.Reading MBT(probably THE most important book anyone will read in their lifetime) is teaching me mental focus. To which I'm guessing is going to be VERY important for the future.

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Me too Me too! This is why I am so excited that Tom's Asheville and Toronto workshops will eventually become available to view.
Until then, maybe you will enjoy the audio recordings found in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3909

In Love, Light, Learning, Laughter and Left-Handedness,
Lynda

Hi
Newbie here
Im wayne form nottingham in england and id just like to say hello and thank you to all the contributors to this forum .
special thanks as always go to tom campbell for bringing great clarity to us all on our journeys.

the question i really would like to ask is........i have a twin brother who i love dearly, how does that one work in npmr and what significance do you think it has for us both? lol
love and thanks,
wayne.

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Wayne,

Good to meet ya! Maybe you should start a new thread on that topic. Could be interesting!

-cole

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Wayne,

Your 'twin' brother may be a good friend and close associate long time in NPMR but there is no such thing as a brother or sister there. Or a parent either for that matter. Everyone plays a role here. They are not just what that role is here in this virtual reality. Your brother here is probably your 'good buddy' there and you may well be much alike so were open to the role of twins. Is this sufficient explanation?

Ted

Hi Wayno (I like that, do people call you that?)
Welcome to Tom's MBT discussion web site. It's good to see you here.
Love to you and yours,
Bette

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Hello and welcome, Lloyd and Wayne!

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Hi cole and Ted

Thanks for your very swift replies.
I may very well start a new thread on the subject out of curiosity but being new i thought it may be bad form to go firing new threads off all over the place.lol
Think ill wait and get the feel of how things work fo a day or two.

I admire you both greatly and feel much more at home due to your responses.
ted you are clear a very great intellect and i totally agree with your thoughts on me and my brother.
I can certainly see that there is no need for a family type relationship in npmr and was sort of hoping that we may be old friends taking the journey together.
I am comforted greatly by this because of the closeness that we share.

I do have my own unique but i suppose not uncommon in the world type story to tell so was looking for a place to start i guess.
I say unique because of the twin angle but it is also unique in that we are both on this journey and actually live and work together,hes not actually aware of mbt yet as hes on a different but converging path to me and is desperatly still hanging onto his ego.
I however have totally surrendered to the truth and have been driven to it in a way as i contracted rheumatoid arthritis some years ago,this left me bed ridden and broken mentally and physically, i went from 6'4" and 19 stones of unstoppable to a 13 stone shell in a matter of a year.
You can imagine that this effected my ego somewhat.

To cut a long story short, i now see my illness as a blessing and a lesson in how to live my life.
i have changed beyond recognition and the textures of life that my illness exposed me to have given me huge traction to make quite profound conclusions of how my life and understandings differ between myself and my healthy still ego driven but progressing twin.
so acute has this realisation become that i now document every feeling and mood and the teachings they seem to miraculously provide?
the information i have collected seems to of taken on a life of its own and i hope one day it may be a benefit to others?
MBT has helped to stratify this knowledge and bring me to a sound foundation to go on exploring all of life, be that pmr or nmpr.

many thanks,
wayne

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