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 Post subject: Sugar and ADD
PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:48 am 
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just a wild intuitive guess here,
do you suppose consuming sugar is the major cause for ADD ?
Since today, almost everybody appears to have some sort of concentration malfunction, and I don't think it is our nature to be that way,
something tells me the two are closely related.

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 Post subject: Re: Sugar and ADD
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Hi reVI,

It probably doesn't help (it distorts our awareness), but I don't think it's the root of the problèm. I believe it's more linked to our non-acceptance on the present moment... The way we flee it.


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 Post subject: Re: Sugar and ADD
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reIV,

A major cause of ADD is the diet most of Americans partake in. S.A.D. stands for Standard American Diet which can be attributed to many if not all of the disease and ailments that effect the majority of Americans today.

For a little over a month now I have been on a 90-95% raw food diet, and under Tom's advisement have cut out 98% of my sugar intake. And I'm here to tell all of you IT IS AMAZING!!! I have never felt mentally or physically better (aside from detoxing part). It has improved my ability to meditate, which is a great side effect.

I feel as though I'm lowering the entropy of my physical body by eating only a raw vegan diet.

A great website to check out is http://www.foodmatters.tv/

Hope this helps

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Thank you,

I intend to cut my sugar supply shortly as well,

I'll post results in a month or two


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 Post subject: Re: Sugar and ADD
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relV,

I think you are right on track with your observation. Ingestion of sugar definitely produces ADD symptoms. The smaller the body weight and the lesser the ability to evoke self-control (children), the greater the observable effect. ADD symptoms may be driven by other causes as well, but ubiquitous sugar, in its many forms, is a large part of the problem -- especially for children. Adults are so used to a muddled awareness, that a fuzzy defocused consciousness now defines what is considered healthy and "normal". That is one reason why meditation, which should be as easy and natural as breathing, is so difficult for many people.

Ronc,
Way to go! Makes a big difference, doesn't it? Next step is to get rid of that last 2% of sugar. Even a tenth of one percent makes a significant difference. Read the ingredients of everything before ingesting -- and don't be tricked by "all natural fruit juice sweetened" or "evaporated cane juice" or "natural honey". As far as I know, barley malt and some "cane juice", is OK. I have been told that Blue Agave is also OK but I have not yet tested it - I have a sample to test but haven't gotten to it yet - I will let you know.

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I have been trying to follow a diet with foods that have a low glycemic index. Foods with a low glycemic index don't invoke an insulin response the way that foods with a high glycemic index do.

Along with cutting out most of my sugars , I have also cut out foods with a high GI. The one thing that was significant for me was potatoes, namely french fries. Apparently, the starches in potatoes get broken down in your body into sugars and the insulin response is as if you ate that many grams of sugar.

Tom - do you notice any similarities between the effects of potatoes and sugar?


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Yea I know I gotta cut out that last 2%. I'm working on it Uncle Tom =)

I have made so many changes all at once i.e. raw food, very low sugar intake, watching a lot less TV, and video games, zero alcohol intake, becoming more aware of my thoughts and intentions, and after all that I'm stuck on this darn 2% sugar and finishing the last 50 pages of book 3...although I don't have a excuse for that (besides brain overload)

BTW I have found agave nectar to be way too sweet for my taste, but I'm very curious to know what you think.

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Ronc,
I have no idea yet what blue Agave tastes like or what relationship it might have to "agave nectar". A small bottle of organic blue Agave was given to me to test because it had a very low glycemic index (GI). Barley malt, which I know to be OK, also has a very low glycemic index. The hypothesis is that GI is what really counts and that therefore blue Agave should also be OK. Whether or not this hypothesis is true or not is not yet known. I am dragging my feet, waiting for a good time to do the test when I am not so busy because if the hypothesis is wrong, I will waste a half a working day feeling like a zombie from a grade B movie. I do not enjoy being removed from clear integration with the larger reality system. Imagine how you would feel if your spouse made you spend the whole night in a small leaky doghouse on a cold rainy night -- a most unpleasant experience -- consequently, the difficulty in making yourself take that risk when you don't really have to encourages procrastination. But I will do it -- one day -- I am a scientist and I do want to know the answer. I will find a good time one day soon.

JoshM,
I have no problem with potatoes. However make sure it is the potato creating the problem -- almost all processed potatoes (like a bag of frozen French fries) contain sugar as an ingredient.

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ronc wrote:
A great website to check out is http://www.foodmatters.tv/


What product are you recommending? The Detox and Rejuvenation Guide looked good, but I'm not for sure if it's what I need. The Paleo diet was great, but then I went vegetarian (still can't believe I did this lol) for ethical reasons. Doing so, I reintroduced things that wasn't so healthy just to provide options. Haven't had much time to work out a new diet, so could use the help until time is available.

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I will waste a half a working day feeling like a zombie from a grade B movie. I do not enjoy being removed from clear integration with the larger reality system.


The one time I've entered into the void/point consciousness it was like thinking was effortless, wile on the other hand thinking here is likened to trying to walk through hip high water. Is this what your are referring too? It was quite the amazing experience.

Thanks

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Man, I really need to cut nicotine (duh), caffine and sugar. I can't imagine how much my better my meditation progress will get. I haven't even considered how much better I would feel, think and focus. I already thought I was able to focus well, I cant imagine what could happen if I deleted this crap outta my life. I think I have a new goal for this month.

Here comes some difficulty...


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TobyH,

TobyH wrote:
Here comes some difficulty...


You've just programmed yourself for difficulty. ;)

I too was supposed to have kicked the coffee and sugar habit a few weeks ago but I haven't yet done it because I'm not ready. I think when you choose to let something go from your life, you need to be fundamentally ready for it. I completely banned alcohol from my life almost 2 months ago and I felt ready and had many good reasons to do so. I still feel good about having made that decision. I haven't yet found that readiness for coffee and sugar.

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 Post subject: Re: Sugar and ADD
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Tom,

The funny thing is I know exactly how it feels; I have spent many a cold rainy nights in the "Dog House"...not fun. Getting back to the agave issue. Perhaps this info may help if you not having to waste a whole day in grade B zombie land ;) I have in front of me two bottles of organic blue agave nectar from Sweet Cactus Farms. http://www.sweetcactusfarms.com Both are labeled to be "suitable for diabetics and vegans". Both also have 4g of sugar per tsp. The difference from what I can see is one is "light" (mild taste) the other is "dark" (rich taste).
The following is info is on both bottles:
"CARBOHYDRATE EXCHANGE INFORMATION
1 serving (1tsp) of Agave Nectar = A Free Food (a free food is less than 20 calories or 5 Grams of Carbohydrate)
2 Servings (2tsp) = 1/2 Carbohydrate Exchange"

Now the one other major difference is also see is the "light" bottle reads "G = 19(low)" and "The Glycemic Index is a ranking of carbohydrates according to their effects of blood glucose levels"
I guessing the "light" one MAY be ok.

I hope this helps Uncle Tom =)

Shin,

If you want to start a great detox program that should be easy to incorporate into a daily routine (without the running to the bathroom every 15 minutes) try http://www.drnatura.com/ I'm have been using it for over 3 months and it works great!
Now as far as food or products. I'm very big into Super Foods such as Acai, Cacao, Goji, Chia seeds, Blue Green Algae (my favorite), Maca, Mangosteen, Noni, etc.. In addition I only eat 95-98% Organic Raw Vegan Diet (with the very very rare "cheat night"). I going to post a few links for you Shin you should find some great info. I hope this help, feel free to pm if you have any questions.

http://www.sunfood.com/Catalog/Default.aspx
http://www.rawfamily.com/
http://www.lazyrawfoodist.com/
http://www.rawguru.com/

TobyH,

QUIT SMOKING DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
to quote Mr. Gump "That's all I have to say about that"

I hope this helped guys!

Love ya all

~Ron C


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Toby I quit smoking about 9/4/01 by using nicotine patches. I quit nicotine probably a couple/few months after that. Hm, when did I have my OBE? I'll have to check on that, anyway, it was the hardest thing I ever did, so far, even harder than quitting meth in 1997. You can do it though. If you use patches at first you will see just what effect nicotine has on you because you'll feel it strongly upon application of the drug patch to your skin. I imagine it might cause you to rip the thing off, after a moment of having to let nicotine get in of course. It says not to, but I cut the strongest patches into fourths at the end to save dollars, and I used the name brand clear kind as they stuck best. You can do this Toby.

The Robert Monroe radio interview that Ramon posted has him drinking coffee. That's all I needed to hear, me of many unfortunate intake habits, good thing he wasn't eating cookies too ;) .
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Thanks Ronc for all your help :)

Been working up to ordering a Colon Cleansing for a wile now. Also a parasite cleansing just in case. Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Blue Green Algae... guess I'm going to have to try it out after all ^_^.

TobyH, It's been years since I've had a sig. Quite a change after, well worth quiting. My problem is alcohol, and sugar. With your advances, I'm rooting for you. Just do a little habit changing at a time, so your not overwhelmed. Been working for me anywho.

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Bette: "The Robert Monroe radio interview that Ramon posted has him drinking coffee. That's all I needed to hear, me of many unfortunate intake habits, good thing he wasn't eating cookies too ;) ."

From everything I have read about him, Robert Monroe had a horrible diet and smoked quite a bit. All that and still had a strong hookup to NPMR. But how much more he could have done without those influences is an unanswerable question.


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