http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQdvYFMBAU

Quite interesting.

Quite interesting indeed. The views on this video have been steadily raising. It brings up some very interesting questions. Tom has discussed aliens on numerous occasions and has generally stood by the proposal that a vast majority of sightings are merely the musings of the Larger Consciousness System opening minds.

It's my own opinion and intuition that what this ex minister of defense is saying is true, and that the reason Tom does NOT confirm these reports or say much about the topic is because it's not a part of Tom's message. Tom confirming and attaching himself to reports of living aliens in this PMR working with the government would cause him to lose credibility in the minds of the people he is most trying to reach, The closed minded heavy scientist communities. Obviously Tom is trying to reach everyone, but the most important minds to open really are the "high priests" of society. Whether or not they DO exist is completely irrelevant to reality being a Digital simulation, and thus he really need not acknowledge them. Perhaps if more and more government agencies begin to also admit things like this, and it really becomes main stream, then we will hear from Tom.

These are my own opinions.

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I liked your post.

At 89 he probably isn't too worried what may happen to him ? it still takes a lot to be in his position and come out and say it ? Good on him .

I think he pretty much shot down aliens visiting earth in physical form in this video. He really starts talking about it about 50 minutes in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir7s74-C ... ploademail

Tom: I remain, as always, open minded AND skeptical. If you were as old as I am you would know that the aliens have been collaborating with our government and on the verge (certainly this year) of being made public every year for at least 60 years. This story has been a constant humma humma of fast breaking news in the margins for almost a century. In that time, worldwide, hundreds of government leaders antagonistic to each other have come and gone. Indeed, where are those exceedingly shy aliens?

I find Tom's views on this video a bit disappointing?

He says one of the reasons ET hasn't appeared here is because 'C is a hard limit' ? I agree that it appears to be, but is it still a limit in NPMR ? And even in PMR what about entanglement ? Entangled particles are not limited to C when they react over long distances , they react instantaneously. (As I understand it) It appears a hard limit for us but for much more advanced beings ?

My feeling is that the ET question is related to NPMR, they seem to be operating (mainly) in other consciousness's from what I have seen and it seems to make more sense to me ?

I would be more inclined to believe what Paul Hellyer says he 'knows' in this case. Those 'exceedingly shy aliens' have been exceedingly widely reported over a long period ! Do you trust the authorities to tell the truth? Do you not think your 'average Joe' can be ridiculed and suppressed if wanted ? I think it is naive to think otherwise. I think there is much more to this than is being admitted ?

Steve,

C being a 'hard limit' in PMR is a result of the PMR rule set and the way that a VR is simulated. NPMR has no similar limitation as the rule set is vastly different with no 'places' to travel between as it is Non Physical as the name states. Nor is it a matter of being able to use NPMR as somehow a way to short circuit distance in PMR as in science fiction ideas of 'tunneling' through a 'wormhole' in space or similar concepts of 'warp' speed or a FTL drive to achieve Faster Than Light travel. You can't take your space ship out of PMR and into NPMR from which you might think to pop out somewhere else in PMR. NPMR and PMR do not 'map' together in that way. The only way that either one exists as a VR is as in the messaging over the RWW which represents the experience of the participating IUOCs within a given VR. The same IUOC that is receiving the stream of data that makes you Steve in PMR is also receiving another stream of data that makes that IUOC into the FWAU experiencing continuously in NPMR which you will return to experiencing when your PMR stint is done as a 'merging' of your two streams of consciousness.

Entangled particles are not traveling from place to place at a speed greater than C, they are rather 'communicating' in limited ways via their entanglement which would be related to the way the VR is simulated which is based 'outside' of the PMR VR as the messaging that creates the VR experience is created and sent to the participating IUOCs. Besides which, they are sub atomic particles in the VR simulation that are involved in entanglement at the quantum level. You can't put a saddle on one and ride it somehow between the two entangled particles locations.

Concepts of heaven and hell have also been exceedingly widely reported and for a very long time. Others 'married' to these concepts find it 'disappointing' that Tom does not report their existence and location and how to get into the first and stay away from the latter.

Just as Tom describes, various persons have been reporting on the imminent release of acknowledgement of ETs existence and visiting aliens by various governments for many decades. Perhaps including their involvement and control within that government and that data just being suppressed. I had an employee roughly 30 years ago who was very 'into' the ideas of aliens visiting earth and talking secretly with the government, possibly controlling the government or at least providing secrets that would result in our own possession of super fast aircraft and advanced weaponry 'real soon now'. The people whose materials he read then were hinting at these iminent revelations then just as others are hinting at similar revelations to come 'any day now' in today's world. Somehow that definitive, absolutely proven and not to be doubted information and revelation never manages to arrive and be released. Oh Darn! Suppressed again! Governments seem to be much more competent at suppressing information than at any other activity they attempt.

It is much the same as all of those past announcements of revelations that 'the end of the world is at hand', leading multiple times to the leaders of such groups and their true believers selling all their worldly goods and gathering in some chosen place, perhaps camped out in a rural field, for the arrival of the chariots from heaven, the space transports to safety elsewhere or the direct translation into heaven in an 'uplift' or 'Rapture' of some kind to occur. So far, each such revelation has resulted in a disappointed and embarrassed slinking away come the next dawn of day after the designated time passes without the predicted action. To be followed in many cases by new revelations of a new date and time later in some cases and that the previous announcement was thwarted by the lack of faith of some of the believers or the general insufficiency of faith of all of the believers. Even worse has been the doomsday cults that become invested and act out in mass suicides or murders as they expect again that the end of the world is at hand per some charismatic leader like Jim Jones. I know of two books published, and the older one I have on my shelf, on the theme of a 'history of the end of the world', discussing many of these past failed expectations of apocalypse now.

Ted

SteveMac - Remember Tom said that it was nothing for the LCS to insert a space ship into the VR because it is just data. So that means that people aren't delusional. It just isn't what they think it is. And that a lot of other consciousnesses visit this PMR just as Tom visited other PMRs - just not with space ships.

Can you imagine how close minded this world would be if we didn't have odd occurrences reminding us that reality is much larger and stranger than it appears? How much more of a grip would religions have on the populace if there weren't strange things happening that they couldn't explain? Religion had to come up with the broad category of miracles. And the Catholic Church has now started incorporating the idea of E Ts.