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 Post subject: Radionics healing
PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:45 pm 
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Does anyone here have any experience with Radionics healing? I've only recently heard of it.

Can it be considered a tool used by the practitioner to focus his/her intent for healing?

Love Carole.


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It is a concept or tool just like using a crystal or an orgone box or Reiki or laying on of hands or prayer or whatever tool you choose that fits with your history and disposition for healing. What works is not the tool but the Intent of the tool user.

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Elorac,

as long as you are comfortable with a particular healing tool, and it is producing good results for you, use them and see what works better for you. You can invent your own tool to focus your intent before or during healing. Actually all these tools were invented by somebody for their personal use. People have tendency to believe, that tools are sacred and assign any kind of magic qualities to them. Tool makes it easy to start, but it could be discarded, when you gain your skills and confidence.

I've learned, that focusing my intent on a person in question and his health issues is easy and brings better results. It saves time, because there is no rituals involved, and no worries if this is a right tool for this person or occasion.

Tom said, that in his healing he is using a laser beam. I use gold light. My guide has suggested it to me. Pull one cell from an affected area and heal it until you 'see' that this cell is healthy. Say in your mind something like, now all cells affected by this illness or disease become as healthy, as a healed cell. You don't need to repeat these words, go with a flow, what comes easy and natural to you. You cannot do any harm to anybody, if your intent is to help them.

Remember, that healing is not always be a success story. Your free will and intent working against another person free will and intent. This particular illness might be their lesson to learn. Don't be afraid to help though.

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Elorac wrote:
Does anyone here have any experience with Radionics healing? I've only recently heard of it.

Can it be considered a tool used by the practitioner to focus his/her intent for healing?

Love Carole.


First let me say Ted and Lena hit the important points.

My comment is more of an aside that I'll try to add some context with -

I attended a Psychotronics conference/school in the early '90's. At the time it was common knowledge that there was a division among the aggregate group of practitioners whose used the specific tools to the group. That division was labeled Radionics.

The conceptual boundary was determined by which view of the 'how' the operator adhered to;

1. Radionics operators believed it was the tool doing the work.

2. Psychotronics operators believed the tool was a focus point only for the mind of the operator and thus the mind was doing the work.

If you have read MBT you should be able to understand why this distinction is important.


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Elorac wrote:
Does anyone here have any experience with Radionics healing? I've only recently heard of it.

Can it be considered a tool used by the practitioner to focus his/her intent for healing?

Love Carole.


First let me say Ted and Lena hit the important points.

My comment is more of an aside that I'll try to add some context with -

I attended a Psychotronics conference/school in the early '90's. At the time it was common knowledge that there was a division among the aggregate group of practitioners whose used the specific tools to the group. The splinter group was labeled Radionics. The primary group was labeled Psychotronics.

The conceptual boundary was determined by which view of the 'how' the operator adhered to;

1. Radionics operators believed it was the tool doing the work.

2. Psychotronics operators believed the tool was a focus point only for the mind of the operator and thus the mind was doing the work.

If you have read MBT you should be able to understand why this distinction is important as your question suggests.


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 Post subject: Re: Radionics healing
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Thank you for your responses, they are all helpful.

@RBM, I have read MBT, I'm on my second read at the moment. I do understand what you're saying about the distinction between believing that the tool is doing the healing, and believing the mind is doing the healing with the aid of a tool to focus intention. On the UK Radionic Association website, it says " the instrument serves to focus the thoughts of the practitioner", and so my understanding was that they are using their intention to heal and believe the instrument will help to focus that intent.

When I think about this more, it seems that any kind of treatment could be considered to be a healing intention. If a conventional doctor wants to heal you, and believes that he needs drugs/ surgery or whatever to do so, maybe that's how conventional medicine works (when it does). The doctor might not realise it's his intention, and maybe your intention to heal that actually does the work.


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 Post subject: Re: Radionics healing
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Elorac wrote:
Thank you for your responses, they are all helpful.

@RBM, I have read MBT, I'm on my second read at the moment. I do understand what you're saying about the distinction between believing that the tool is doing the healing, and believing the mind is doing the healing with the aid of a tool to focus intention. On the UK Radionic Association website, it says " the instrument serves to focus the thoughts of the practitioner", and so my understanding was that they are using their intention to heal and believe the instrument will help to focus that intent.

When I think about this more, it seems that any kind of treatment could be considered to be a healing intention. If a conventional doctor wants to heal you, and believes that he needs drugs/ surgery or whatever to do so, maybe that's how conventional medicine works (when it does). The doctor might not realise it's his intention, and maybe your intention to heal that actually does the work.
All we are doing is modifying the outcome of the future probable possibilities within the constraints of the rule set with our focused intent. There is a range of uncertainty that you can nudge one way or the other. The second way you are talking about can work in accordance with the intent to achieve the desired results. But you would have side effects to deal with, this is how i understand Toms model. Sabby


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Lena wrote:
Elorac,

as long as you are comfortable with a particular healing tool, and it is producing good results for you, use them and see what works better for you. You can invent your own tool to focus your intent before or during healing. Actually all these tools were invented by somebody for their personal use. People have tendency to believe, that tools are sacred and assign any kind of magic qualities to them. Tool makes it easy to start, but it could be discarded, when you gain your skills and confidence.

I've learned, that focusing my intent on a person in question and his health issues is easy and brings better results. It saves time, because there is no rituals involved, and no worries if this is a right tool for this person or occasion.

Tom said, that in his healing he is using a laser beam. I use gold light. My guide has suggested it to me. Pull one cell from an affected area and heal it until you 'see' that this cell is healthy. Say in your mind something like, now all cells affected by this illness or disease become as healthy, as a healed cell. You don't need to repeat these words, go with a flow, what comes easy and natural to you. You cannot do any harm to anybody, if your intent is to help them.

Remember, that healing is not always be a success story. Your free will and intent working against another person free will and intent. This particular illness might be their lesson to learn. Don't be afraid to help though.

Lena


Lena,

thank you, you've reminded me to go with my intuition when I'm trying to help someone and find my own best way of going about it rather than assume that someone else's method is best.

About healing not always being successful because it might be a persons' lesson to learn, this is where I feel confused. If results aren't being seen, how do you know whether to continue trying to help or stop trying and assume that the illness is there for their ultimate benefit? Eventually I'm left thinking that it's best to just have the intention of sending love and for them to have the best outcome for themselves, whatever that may be.

Love Carole


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About healing not always being successful because it might be a persons' lesson to learn, this is where I feel confused. If results aren't being seen, how do you know whether to continue trying to help or stop trying and assume that the illness is there for their ultimate benefit? Eventually I'm left thinking that it's best to just have the intention of sending love and for them to have the best outcome for themselves, whatever that may be.
Carole,

you learn healing by doing it. Heal someone for two-three week or two-three days, depending on what kind of health issue you are facing. Is it any progress? Does everything stay the same? Is this person getting worse? Make your best judgment what is your next step going to be. Should you keep going? Should you stop all together? Increase or decrease treatment time? You do your best. Don't think, that you are responsible, if there is no obvious good result. At the time of healing we have two intents, a patient's intent and a healer's intent. Your intent could be stronger, and a patient starts to get better, and very soon he is doing much better, than two weeks ago. Was it you? was it his medication? It is difficult to say. Might be it was both. Keep going, do healing all the time. It doesn't have to be a person only. Send your healing intent into some situation, help your friend to get an interview, heal your neighbor's pet or your plants. This is not an exact science, but with a time you develop your intuition or contact with your guides/Higher Self/LCS.

My friend has her guides telling what she should do next. This is her healing experience from the very beginning. I see 'body', something like that Image If I'd like to see a cell, it would look like that Image I see no words or pointing arrows ;))

Start with something simple. You can create an image in your mind, or take whatever comes into your inner vision. It is much easier to do, than to say how to do it. Healing could be regarded as an art, you don't repeat after anyone, but you always create your own.

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 Post subject: Re: Radionics healing
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apparently in a PSI state some can actually perceive a representation of the illness and its location, as a shadow or a white spot, depending on how you set up your intent, and Tom spoke of trying to heal someone with directed/focused intent, but the illness shadow would keep returning...his interpretation of this was that there was a larger big picture profitable purpose to the illness and he would withdraw from trying to fight it.

my speculative view is that illness can be:

1) a tool of the system, part of feedback, to literally beat you into submission to feedback, if all else fails, [incenting you toward a more profitable Intent, such as committing to "becoming love"]

2) a terminal illness may be that you have been selected for accelerated "promotion" or regeneration...your current incarnation may be deemed (by management) to be unprofitable or perhaps you already passed your lessons with flying colors, and your IUOC's attention is required for another opportunity, or your illness is part of someone else's drama/lesson.

3) the illness may have been part of an inescapable probability for that sensor platform, and you are a very low entropy IUOC who is "taking one for the team", or chose this as a post-doc learning experience.

4) part of uncertainty and randomness, or part of the normal exiting process.

sometimes the system is not very "nice", at least in the little picture sense, and sometimes things just go awry in the garden by accident as part of the cost of doing business

when I am sick, or bad stuff happens, I am walking around asking

"are you trying to tell me something, or what?"

"Is this feedback or random?"

or

"enough with the lessons already!"

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 Post subject: Re: Radionics healing
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:42 am 
Great perception Kroeran, i just wonder when this type of primitive feedback will not be necessary. No doubt we do learn a lot from it, and i do think intent healing works sometimes. in the future we will not need all of this grief and pain for growth, if we can find ways of growing out of it. I think the Newtonian way of achieving this is just about at ropes in. Looks like it is time for quantum physic to merge and to become one over arching approach to these complicated issues. Sabby


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apart from Tom getting the Noble prize and PSI types getting some comfort from the model, it all comes down to your moment to moment intent->feedback loop, which everyone is in regardless

quantum physics and modelling is theory, but coming face to face with loading the dishwasher, (when someone else will have to do it if you don't) is the game

as personal quality grows, the model suggests moving to higher levels of gaming, within this PMR or OS, or in other PMRs, and the current system will be used to process fresh IUOC meat

there is no apparent PMR simulator metric such as feedback that needs fixing, according to the model - as always, according to my understanding

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4) part of uncertainty and randomness, or part of the normal exiting process.
The rest is not necessary. For a beginner or intermediate level healer a true answer would not be found, and it would create more confusion instead of better awareness or understanding. Accepting any uncertainty gracefully is a huge task by itself, and surprisingly it might bring some unexpected answers without asking. When we are at the right place at the right time answer is waiting for us right there.

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 Post subject: Re: Radionics healing
PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:58 pm 
I must say Randy and Lena that is a bit abstract, i am very hopeful that we will not need the pain and suffering to nudge us to grow. it just looks to be an unnecessary tool as we grow up more collectively. Some people me included think it is sad we need all this sickness and pain to grow. My intent is to grow out of sickness and pain as tools for growth. Sabby


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You will not get away from this fully in this PMR. It is inherent to the design of the rule set.

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