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It's a very good thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2834&
It also goes into your last question about death, FWAU and IUOC, a subject that is hard to understand.

kroeran,

You forget that we are talking virtual realities here. We have an IUOC existing at an 'address' on the Reality Wide Web. That IUOC functions as an integral part of The One Consciousness. That IUOC also has a virtual self or FWAU that continuously experiences itself as a being existing within NPMR and functioning according to the rule set of NPMR. That FWAU, let's call it FWAU(npmr) for short, interacts with its guidance and a decision is made that it is getting time to experience a new dose of PMR. To some degree, greater or lesser, parameters are established as to the characteristics of the new PMR experience packet. Depending on the training situation best suited for the development of FWAU(npmr), that could be anything from whatever comes down the pike next to elaborate specifications, requiring a much longer wait, of country, ethnicity, sex, economic status, intelligence, specific parents, etc. All of these decisions will be made on the basis of probability as this is preplanned before the conception. None of this is left to chance and is scheduled ahead with a waiting list.

A particular FWAU(npmr) may have specific feelings about when they wish to start experiencing the consciousness of the fetus to be. In any case, this fetus to be is virtual and exists only as probability or with some degree of intent on part of the parents to be. There is no evidence of its existence until the mother experiences some of the signs of pregnancy. Remember, it is all virtual, just data in TBC to be presented to the participating FWAUs over the RWW. When the time agreed upon for the FWAU(npmr) to start experiencing the consciousness of the fetus, a new virtual self, a FWAU(pmr) is partitioned within the IUOC with the characteristics out of the inventory available within the IUOC to experience the new PMR experience packet. At that time, the IUOC has its input streams rescheduled by TBC setting aside a new time slot for the periodic experiencing of a new PMR delta t. The data stream is created representing the experience of the fetal FWAU(pmr), rendered for specifics and delivered within the new time slot via the RWW.

The consciousness resides within the FWAU(pmr) on the RWW and it will consist at first of whatever limited awareness the fetus at its developmental stage, per the PMR rule set, allows. Correlate this with your questions and there are your answers. If you are talking about a child with you as a parent of that child within PMR, as Tom was answering a question about above, remember that you also as the parent are a virtual being experiencing PMR as a data stream coming over the RWW. You can communicate with that child before birth and as Tom discussed. You can communicate with your spouse in that same way, if you choose to make the effort and learn to do so. You can communicate with the recently deceased and there is a reasonable probability that they will wish to communicate with you. It's all communication over or experiencing of data streams over the RWW within a virtual experience.

Finish reading the books and these questions will likely be answered already without your having to ask or our having to answer. This will be useful to many so I have gone into the details.

Ted

I learnt a quote recently in relation to this which made me think a little!

- 'Morality is the herd instinct of the individual'

Nietzsche

for example, I don't see Mother Teresa as an example of highest consciousness - or at least the idea of Mother Teresa, rather, I would look to life T. Campbell is leading as being closer to a perfection of balance between self interest, family responsibility, and service to community.

What does it say about a consciousness that devotes their life to relieving the suffering of people, but who will not advocate something (birth control) that would greatly help relieve the situation? I've always felt conflicted about Mother Teresa.

this discussion raises the question of the role of religious celibacy (monks and nuns) in Catholic and Buddhist traditions and if this is a manifestation of extreme consciousness or an anachronism that will pass away into history.

I wonder if contemplative monks and nuns have been zooming around in NPMR all this time and not telling anyone?