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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:51 am 
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Does anyone know what actual practices Buddha gave to his dedicated students who did great things, or to Christ's disciples who did as great or greater things than him yet are not even written about today?


I think this is more ego and all the teachings point to under the radar loading and emptying the dishwasher (more than your fair share!) ....rather than so-called greatness that might attract getting written up or talked about 2 millennia hence.

think very very local, think anonymous as possible

the compassionate act of loading the dishwasher is further purified if done when no-one is looking, and then further purified if you say when queried, I think my sister did it.

it all comes down to what you do with an empty dirty coffee pot in the office lunchroom when no-one is looking, initially at the mental/free will level (reaching for better intent within the range of your perceived decision space), and then at the soul level (better intent becomes a natural internal impulse as your QoC improves/entropy reduces)

unless you are playing this quiet game, you are just filling your mind with new age chatter

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Gnosis,

I'm not really sure what you are asking. If you have a great desire and have developed your Intent, Tom's special meaning of the word intent, you can explore the past actualized data base and try to see some of the actions or teachings of the Buddha, who we do know to be a real person, well documented. You could also attempt to explore the reality related to Jesus who is much less well documented but very much heavily reported about, whatever the reality was. There was a great deal of contemporary 'politics' associated with Jesus and current aspirations of the Jews of the times as well as historical 'prophecies' of a messiah who was thought of as a new Jewish king and not as Christianity has come to state it, as I understand it.

You are getting to know MBT. To me at least, a great deal of the core of Tom's teaching is his model of our reality. The nature of the Larger Consciousness System, our own natures there and the Virtual Reality nature of this Physical Matter Reality. Then there is the purpose of our existence and participation within these VRs which is to enhance our own Quality of Consciousness and thus, as we are integral parts of the Unity that is The One Consciousness or as Tom came to describe the present state, the Absolute Unbounded Manifold, if I remember the terminology right, we simultaneously add incrementally to the QoC of AUM. This occurs automatically as we participate in our VR experiences by our interaction together, whether we have any knowledge of metaphysics or interest in spirituality at all. Acting consciously with the intent to honor the free will of those with whom we interact speeds the process. This is tied in with the fact that in Tom's model and explanations, free will was the aspect that had to be added to the deterministic nature of the LCS in order for Consciousness to arise. This came about because the way the LCS developed created a meta reality in which we could all (being not conscious at the time) as just somehow 'partitioned' parts of the whole of the LCS interact independently (i. e. with free will) over what was developing as the Reality Wide Web. Relate this to Indra's Net if you are aware of that historical terminology. The VRs are meta realities that were created to give us as Individuated Units of Consciousness, IUOCs, a 'space' for free will interaction and thus to develop our own QoC.

I hope that this gives you a jump start on MBT speak. Questions? Have you looked at the Wiki? http://www.wiki.my-big-toe.com/index.php/Main_Page You might particularly note the pages devoted to Tom's model there. Still not complete with proper references throughout and still needing one last page.

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Gnosis wrote:
Does anyone know what actual practices Buddha gave to his dedicated students who did great things, or to Christ's disciples who did as great or greater things than him yet are not even written about today?


I think this is more ego and all the teachings point to under the radar loading and emptying the dishwasher (more than your fair share!) ....rather than so-called greatness that might attract getting written up or talked about 2 millennia hence.

think very very local, think anonymous as possible

the compassionate act of loading the dishwasher is further purified if done when no-one is looking, and then further purified if you say when queried, I think my sister did it.

it all comes down to what you do with an empty dirty coffee pot in the office lunchroom when no-one is looking, initially at the mental/free will level (reaching for better intent within the range of your perceived decision space), and then at the soul level (better intent becomes a natural internal impulse as your QoC improves/entropy reduces)

unless you are playing this quiet game, you are just filling your mind with new age chatter


Ha! Oh, well, I see I should not have used the word "great/greatness". I had no energy on that word or concept in terms of it "going public" -- or not, or as an ego urge. I really like your analogy though.

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Ted,

Thank you for the link to the MBT glossary in the MBT Wiki, and I bookmarked it, thanks much.

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Okay everyone...lol. I haven't read the works of this amazing man, however not one part of the question was answered. From my understanding we can be trapped in the astral plane and I wanted to know if we just awake from someone tapping you etc, if this is the case I would need someone to actually visit my location due to HIGH HIGH HIGH paranormal activity. If you want a list of things that have occurred minus the usual pinching and poking I get, I can provide a list. But the best thing I can ask for is someone to come remote view at my location and return results. I live in Haverhill MA and I believe there are many entities depending on me exiting my consciousness. I am a firm believer in God, the source etc. but if someone could remote view me its 27 James Ave in haverhill. If anyone participates I'm SURE you will find something strange around my house and not just your average "ghost" or other consciousness laying about. If you do it I bet you wont regret it, and I would love the results so I can experiment or NOT experiment. Thank you for the responses but I really need someone to be my eyes if this is possible. Thanks for all the help everyone, take a visit and you'll be shocked.....


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This is not Ghost Busters but perhaps someone might take you up on your request. It might perhaps be helpful to not write so indirectly but simply say what you mean. I suspect that has still not been made perfectly clear.

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Well....Its pretty crazy, for instance I saw reptilian eyes in my neighbor and several others, a book levitated and moved while watching human behavioral science. Dramatic amounts of pain inflicted not from this physical reality, wild life around me acting strange, mocking me almost it seems. Astral energy projection was used on me causing me to not go crazy but I flipped out due to feeling like I was being pushed out of my consciousness, and if my theory is correct, everyone I deal with is possessed. Now that sounds too crazy for most people however if you were in my shoes you would question this as well.


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You can just address them and tell them to go away. However, I understand what you are experiencing and I can see how you might feel overwhelmed. I used to have to deal with things like that, but my focus was too much on otherly things and not enough on doing my own clearing. I've changed my priorities now and only address interference if I cannot plow through it and continue my clearing work. It always turned out to be something that I could trace back to myself as the cause in the first place and that always brought me relief. As a result of the change of focus/tactic I thoroughly de-loused myself and knew I was now in control, 'cuz I had the tools :-) The only beings hanging around me now are simply interested in learning more about my clearing work, one being a reformed reptilian who actually removes mind-control devices instead of installing them. No longer a feeder. Are you engaging yourself in any sort of spiritual practices?

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Now I understand in the metaphysical world there are demons and or other entities that could possibly hi jack your body. If Jesus exists his concioussness is it really the end of times? I heard he is back and there is a God, and satan element to this and for his safety wanted to find out what Mr Campbell thinks. And returning to the body is another concern for me. Help a brother out?
Jesus did exist just like I exist but it is not really the end of times because the end of times concept is just a concept that most civilizations have kept going. You heard wrong. There is NOT a god but there ARE many myths that have evolved into different god concepts by men who created god in their image. No satan too as that automatically falls out of there being no actual god and no hell as a punishing place. There IS something bigger than yourself but it is also what you are a part of so it is each of us but it isn't god. It IS awesome or really cool but it isn't a being it is a thing. It is a system of information we are all parts of and this life where you perceive your beliefs such as reptilian eyes in neighbors is possible because of this system of information we are all parts of. The levitating book you perceived was data from the system taken into the mind you have which believes in reptilian eyes and can allow some odd data like a book not following the rules to be seen. Basically as I see it you saw something that wasn't there in your neighbor because of certain fears you hold AND because you believe there are reptilians among us and you saw the book levitating because you believe books can levitate and that a levitating book indicates you have some special "thing" going on, or as you say high high high poltergeist activity. You are messing with yourself with the eyes, and you are being shown something to help you see there is more to Reality than most people can see with the book. Some people could be staring directly at a book floating by and not even see it so you have something there. The reptilian eyes thing is a fear and I am sorry you have it. I have friends that have gone through that same thing and made it out okay when they realized they were messing with their own self and projecting onto others the eye thing.

Are you concerned with returning to the body you have now during this life after out of body experiences daily or is there a different concern?
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Very good, Bette. I hope that he listens and accepts.

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I have to tell you I have literally no fear except an out of body experience. That has to be clear, and think about possibilities outside the norm..you're into the works of metaphysics you would figure that is possible since almost anything is possible. I've also witnessed a so called "miracle" of transmutation which I wont explain since there will be another explanation given by someone else, but really the OBE is my only fear and thats why I reached out. But if I get stuck there oh well right?


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Danoto,

The only place that you are stuck is as you exist as what we call an Individuated Unit of Consciousness which is a digital, somewhat like a computer program, mind that resides in Consciousness Space or the Larger Consciousness System which are alternate names indicating different aspects of the same thing. That is you are stuck being what you are. You are 'stuck' here in this physical seeming VR experience until you 'die' which only means that you return to an experience that is continuous in another Virtual Reality which we call NPMR while this one is PMR for Physical Matter Reality. You cannot become stuck OOB as you will automatically be returned to here. You cannot really 'die'. If you follow the suggestions and read around you will understand this better. Nothing can really get to you or at you. You can scare yourself but there is nothing that can get at the real you. Like Winston Churchill said, you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

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Danoto0l wrote:
I have to tell you I have literally no fear except an out of body experience. That has to be clear, and think about possibilities outside the norm..you're into the works of metaphysics you would figure that is possible since almost anything is possible. I've also witnessed a so called "miracle" of transmutation which I wont explain since there will be another explanation given by someone else, but really the OBE is my only fear and thats why I reached out. But if I get stuck there oh well right?
Do you think that you have had an OOBE already or that you have not had an OOBE already Danoto?

Transmutation, just define it to me please Danoto okay? I have my meaning but would like yours. Thank you in advance.
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If, ....IF, at the end of each year, we, just prior to deleting the damned thing, printed out the mostly ghastly thread on the boards and burned it with lots of gasoline and ceremony, well, this one would sure get my vote this year.

It's OMG index just embarrasses the shit out of those supermarket tabloids.

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Montana wrote:
If, ....IF, at the end of each year, we, just prior to deleting the damned thing, printed out the mostly ghastly thread on the boards and burned it with lots of gasoline and ceremony, well, this one would sure get my vote this year.

It's OMG index just embarrasses the shit out of those supermarket tabloids.

Gah~

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ROFL!! My bad :-) This forum is proving to be an educational advancement for me. Onward and upward :-)

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