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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:13 am 
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I have sent an e-mail through the board system to Trish LeSage asking for her comments as to whether she had a purpose in posting here beyond selling her book.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:19 am 
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Hello everyone,

I apologize for not responding. I have been really busy lately and hadn't seen any emails in response to my original post in my email inbox (I have gotten inundated with a lot of emails lately.). I also shy away from being on discussion boards a lot because of exactly what happened on this thread that I created. People tend to be very rude (calling me crazy, etc.). So, it's not exactly the place I enjoy to hang out. I assumed that people here would be open minded enough to read my blog and respond in an intelligent manner, but I guess I was proved to be wrong.

Reality shifts happen to each and every one of us more often than we realize. The more you pay attention to the details, the more you will notice them. The more you pay attention, the more they happen also.

5D means 5th dimension. Humanity is supposed to be ascending from 3rd dimension consciousness and all of the negativity that it entails to 5th dimension (5D) consciousness. Unfortunately, most of humanity is still deeply asleep. Therefore, the negativity continues as always. For those who are ready to ascend, they are experiencing their true multi-dimensional nature which goes way beyond the so-called physical world that we sense with our 5 physical senses.

I only recall going through a portal on a couple of occasions. It is so subtle that it is hard to notice that you are in one in the first place. You can still see all of your surroundings when you're in a portal, but you sense a change in the vibration of the energy (the density, etc.) in going through one from a universe of one vibration to a universe of another vibration. I physically go through the portals with my physical body. I do nothing on my part to change my vibration (although I do know how to change my vibration by myself). I do not decide when and where I go. Spirit decides that for me, and spirit makes the necessary energy adjustments to me so that my vibration matches wherever I am going.

I don't know whether or not I'm out on some potential future branch. However, I am now noticing more and more often that events from one universe to another are repeating themselves. What I witnessed happening several months ago, tends to happen again in a parallel reality. Sometimes it is downright eerie! The same exact words that people say and their expressions are repeated. TV shows that I've seen for months are advertised as brand new in parallel universes. There are so many examples of this phenomenon that I couldn't write it all in this blog post.

I have posted another one of my experiences on my website for those of you who care to read it. This experience was actually more profound than what I have written it to be. It was downright unsettling when I experienced it, and it is something that I haven't been able to get out of my mind since. I have watered down the blog article from what actually happened so that it wouldn't be so negative, but needless to say, the experience was very traumatic for me, and it's something that will stay with me for the rest of my life. Here's the link: http://www.beyond3dbooks.com/fire


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The words and phrases you use carry alot of connotations, and that triggers skepticism in some people. Negativity and skepticism are different things.

This board is usually very positive but also very skeptical. If you made less of a point about your blog and website, people would have more faith that your participation is genuine. Besides that, you seem to have interesting things to tell.

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Unfortunately, most of humanity is still deeply asleep. Therefore, the negativity continues as always.

In all experiences I know of, negativity is not something one can suddenly "wake up" from - it must be gradually resolved. What could cause sudden change in so many people at once?

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I wouldn't say that calling someone crazy is skepticism. It is downright rude and happens because of lack of awareness! Just because someone has never experienced the things that I have experienced does not mean that I am crazy and that it is not possible for them to happen. The skeptics simply have not experienced them yet, because they are not ready to. We experience what we are ready to experience. The more our minds are closed, the less we will experience, and stagnation in our evolution of consciousness occurs. The more open minded we are, the more we evolve and learn. People didn't believe Christopher Columbus when he said that the Earth was round, because they weren't ready to believe it. Many of the greatest of minds that have moved the human race forward have been criticized and persecuted. I am not saying that I am the greatest of minds. I am simply saying that humanity will not progress through closed mindedness. Humanity has only progressed through open mindedness.

I feel that a part of my purpose for being on this Earth is to educate people. Hence, I enjoy posting links to my blog articles so that people can read them. Maybe it will serve the purpose of opening at least one person's mind to the possibilities.

There are some theories that all of humanity will suddenly awaken, and there are other theories that only a small percentage of humanity will awaken (less than 1%). I honestly don't have much faith in all of humanity awakening suddenly unless the whole timeline that we're on were to be "shut off" or suspended for awhile, and those who are in spirit were to cleanse people in order to raise their energy vibration and then turn the timeline back on after everyone is cleansed. Otherwise, I don't see how it would happen neither. I have felt a timeline or two that I have been on "shut down" or "frozen" for awhile however.

I would like to mention that if you use energy healing (The Violet Flame, Qigong, etc.) enough, you do raise your energy vibration to the point that negativity is automatically filtered out with no effort required on your part. I have actually experienced this firsthand until I began to get blocked by spirit and "fell" back down in vibration so that I could function better on a daily basis. Many others have experienced this same phenomenon also. I have actually written a blog article about what it's like to experience 5th dimension consciousness also. Here's a link to it:
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Your descriptions and terminology do not match with Tom Campbell's model of reality. Is there some kind of model of reality that you understand that explains such concepts as 5th dimension consciousness and to which you could refer us? The experience that you describe is not that rare to our thought patterns and viewpoints. The terminology is however totally foreign. Tom's model is available here in short form: http://wiki.my-big-toe.com/index.php/Th ... _Link_Page If you were to read it, you would discover that it is congruent with that of the Buddha with some translation of terms and substitution of modern 'scientific' metaphors but goes much beyond in terms of how Consciousness arose and how we exist as Individuated Consciousnesses. It includes the concept of the Void and Indra's Net with which you are no doubt familiar as they are not uncommon in more New Age thought patterns.

Actually I am not aware that you were so received or so called here. You have been welcomed by several and responded to open mindedly with one exception of calling you a 'nut' after your never returning began to be noted. Open minded skepticism is the ideal here. As the Queen said to Alice: "When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." We deal in metaphysics and essentially anything is possible within a Virtual Reality, but not necessarily probable.

You will actually not receive any e-mail notifications of responses unless you click on the box below the posting window marked: Notify me when a reply is posted. Then the system automatically sends one out which would have put 14 in your in box since January of this year.

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It seems like people showing up to advertise their for-money product should be expected.

Maybe there should be a forum just for that...?

Call it something that would indicate that it is advertising for outside products which are not 'of MBT'.

The funds can go to cover mics. expenses, packing off books to public libraries, or some outside charitable cause.

-Just a thought.

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Montana wrote:
It seems like people showing up to advertise their for-money product should be expected.

Maybe there should be a forum just for that...?

Call it something that would indicate that it is advertising for outside products which are not 'of MBT'.

The funds can go to cover mics. expenses, packing off books to public libraries, or some outside charitable cause.

-Just a thought.

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Of what funds do you speak Montana?

Can one just pack off books for inclusion into public libraries?
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It's a character fault on my part, I guess, I get irritated with what looks like spam.

She may not mean it as spam, or maybe there are mixed motives that are not that aware of each other operating.

But anyway, this is not the first case of people advertising their wares on this forum. If the wares are not objectionable in themselves, it still feels like noise. Then I thought, ... maybe if there were a separate forum for that as well...? For to spam products neither endorsed nor condemned by MBT. Premium advertising space, especially as the traffic increases.... it could generate income that could be used to at least make a dent in postage costs.

Yes, public libraries can seldom afford all the books they would like to have. If you talk to the head honcho, you will often find that they are open to receiving books directly, but generally won't pre-commit. (Some folks may try to slip in books that are not thought desirable). You can also offer "I have some books I would like to donate to the library... but not to go into the book sale. If you would like them for your shelves, great. If not though, I would like them back. And generally they will co-operate.

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I doubt the first idea would work for long as there would be things associated which are not endorsed plus it would be a PITA (pain in the a$$) (that's funny is that a known acronym?) anyway the second thing has my head spinning with ideas like needing to have some copies of MBT in the library here if there were to be a lecture here ever by Tom or maybe even me if I ever got my stuff together enough to start something here. I'm very stay at home right now and in no way would want people coming here but there are places to meet I could taxi to if needed now that there's a taxi here again.
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I see PITA out there some.... it's not everywhere ... but its meaning is often pretty obvious by context, so people use it.

Since Book MBT is available online, along with the huge mass of other material (Wiki, youtubes, etc etc) and facebook, which I still have yet to use (no early adopter here, apparently), and its sort of dumb for me to have it on my shelf when others could have access to it, it along with several other 'not easy to come by' tomes went to the local library. Now in shiny clear plastic covering, it is sitting there in the early dewey-numbers section awaiting all comers. :-)

The advertising thing was just a thought. No vested interest, obviously. There seems to be a demand for visibility. It must be murder for an author trying to break in to the public awareness having to do the goon shows (".... and coming up after this, Herman Von Gah, who has been abducted by both Elvis And Liz! ...and has a warning of impending planetary cockroach doom! And now, a word from our sponsor: 'Bonkers', makers of alligator brains aphrodisiac! ...")

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I have read My Big Toe, but I read it several years ago. So, I am no longer familiar with all of the terminology in the books. I remember some however. I am also not familiar with Buddha, as I am not religious but spiritual. I am not interested in man made religions at all. My blog articles, book, etc. are based on what I have experienced personally, however, I interestingly seem to "stumble" upon more and more people that have had the same experiences. Those people with which I have interacted with that are on the path of ascension to higher consciousness use the terms "5D (5th dimension)", etc. Probably less than 1% of humanity is going through ascension (or maybe everyone is going through ascension and is not aware that they're going through it, because they are too deeply asleep). So, when I use the terminology that I use, it is almost always understood by everyone who is knowingly going through ascension to higher consciousness unless someone has just recently awakened. The ones who have recently awakened usually are not familiar with the terminology. So, I apologize for the confusion on my terminology, as I am not used to interacting with those who are not familiar with it. I tend to hang out online with those who are already going through the symptoms of going to higher consciousness.


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The kinds of thought and perceptions that you refer to as 5th dimension is not unknown here. However, the terminology of 5th dimension, ascension to higher vibration levels and so forth is unknown here. I was trying to ask if you had any model to explain your descriptions that might make sense to us here. The reference link that I gave you to the model on the Wiki would give you some idea of what I mean, if you looked at it. Otherwise, your 5th dimension, vibration levels, and such is just New Age gobbledygook to us. To talk about lower entropy beings among us having those characteristics makes sense here. We are Individuated Units of Consciousness, that is "us" as we really are rather than as we appear here in this Virtual Reality. We do not however see some major transition coming soon but rather that this process, the process of growing up and lowering entropy within our beings is the norm, although a long term process, and the reason for our being here.

To communicate here on this board really requires the creation of a vocabulary that fits here. It is not our purpose to go into New Age terminology and thought patterns, although some here come from that experience. What we have to say here are metaphors, just like the New Age terminology are metaphors. They are however based upon the metaphors of science generally and physics specifically rather than upon the metaphors of spiritualism, New Age thinking or even ancient metaphysics which are all much less clear and lean on belief and feeling rather than something that can be rationally discussed and explained. Not that the understanding here does not include the understandings of mysticism as well and we are ideally speaking of understanding at the being level, rather than just the intellectual. That is the point. Tom Campbell's model of Reality applies across the board from ancient mysticism to modern science and the direction the paradigm of science is moving which is recognizing the primary role of Consciousness.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:45 am 
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I have read My Big Toe, but I read it several years ago. So, I am no longer familiar with all of the terminology in the books. I remember some however. I am also not familiar with Buddha, as I am not religious but spiritual. I am not interested in man made religions at all. My blog articles, book, etc. are based on what I have experienced personally, however, I interestingly seem to "stumble" upon more and more people that have had the same experiences. Those people with which I have interacted with that are on the path of ascension to higher consciousness use the terms "5D (5th dimension)", etc. Probably less than 1% of humanity is going through ascension (or maybe everyone is going through ascension and is not aware that they're going through it, because they are too deeply asleep). So, when I use the terminology that I use, it is almost always understood by everyone who is knowingly going through ascension to higher consciousness unless someone has just recently awakened. The ones who have recently awakened usually are not familiar with the terminology. So, I apologize for the confusion on my terminology, as I am not used to interacting with those who are not familiar with it. I tend to hang out online with those who are already going through the symptoms of going to higher consciousness.

Becoming aware of the bigger reality can and usually is life changing, your way of describing it is personal and suits you, and i think you get your message across well in a abstract way, Toms way of describing the5th dimension are broken down to be less abstract as so to get the message across to a bigger western audience. I think you are on the right forum for discussing your experiences but maybe look for some different metaphors that would fit in better. Welcome Sabby


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Thank you Trish for responding. I appreciate it. This is very interesting to me, I have my own personal theories of "ascension", or at least a beginning of theories. I feel as the physical sometimes zones out, and that you have to be very attentive and observant to even notice it. These vibration shifts are also interesting, I sometimes suddenly get this feeling, as if "wait, something changed massively right now", it is like a ringing in the ear and something feels very different. I have thought of these as an experience my larger self, or spirit, soul, or whatever you wanna call it, is throwing at me, and that I have some kind of experience to look forward to in this reality frame, or as you say, 3d world. Maybe it is something totally different.

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trish, i'm sure you are smart enough to realize that claims like yours would be challenging to some members of this site, and others may find your claims as blatantly stretching credulity (just because we entertain tom's theory doesn't mean we will drink any cup of 'kool aid' handed to us).

it's better that you explained yourself beyond your initial post, but the fact remains that we don't see much plausibility in your claims being true -even if we assume you are not lying. my opinion is this: if you indeed have had these experiences, i believe there is a large probability that you are interpreting them incorrectly. if you read MBT again you should understand the importance of using all the correct intent you can muster to verify the authenticity of your assumptions.

at best, Montana's comment seems most likely; you are surfing 'actualized' and 'un-actualized' past databases -and possibly 'probable future' databases- and confusing them with ongoing parallel universes. there is no book more valuable to you than MBT if this is the case.

one last thing:
all indications are there is no free lunch; the quality of your consciousness (your vibrational frequency, as you call it) is not magically polished for you so you can be part of the 1% of beings that gets to abandoned the mess in this PMR that you helped create. christians suffer from the same delusion -that they will be magically raptured up to heaven while the rest of us endure the chaos of our own making. in other words it is you who must perform the hard work of 'right mind', 'right speech' and 'right action' before you can move on to a more advanced learning environment.

give MBT another read :)


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