This month’s Scientific American (August 2012, pp 22-27) has an interesting article entitled The Benevolence of Black Holes.

The article is interesting from a scientific point of view but slips religion subtly under the radar. Having recently read MBT this article may be of interest- the attached blog post summarises and includes extracts.

My opinion is that Science itself has not been the architect of anything of fundamental significance. Consciousness, God, Brahman, Buddha Nature or whatever you prefer is the architect that brings everything into being.

Personally I find this sentence in Scientific American to be offensive ‘We simply exist in a universe that has the conditions that allow for the phenomenon of life—there is nothing special about it. It is just an island that has the right climate’

Lets be honest, all science can ever do is fail to write the instruction manual for an intelligent system that it has no hope of ever understanding. This system is already created and continues to create and recreate itself without any help from the intellectually cognisant. One of the supposed greatest achievements of modern science is to locate what the discipline refers to a ‘the god’ particle. Science in itself has no intelligence, it is merely the construct of those who have the academic capacity to study it. To give science more importance than this would mean calling these few talented individuals ‘God’ which would be Scientism gone mad.

Please read the blog and add your comments https://josephbray.wordpress.com/2012/0 ... /#comments

Fiona,

I read his article and posted a reply to him, outlining Tom's work and suggesting that he might come here and talk about it further. The post is awaiting approval.

Ted

Ted,

The PM outbox has me flummoxed, so check the link above that fionaj gave and where you left a reply to Bray.

Yes I read your reply there, and the reply he made back to you Ted. Good stuff. :)
Love
Bette

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Hi Bette and Ted

I have read the MBT trilogy, and it was a book that I felt had been written just for me mainly because some of my spiritual experiences are almost identical to Tom's- especially the childhood ones. Although I have no scientific background I believe these experiences have given me an understanding.

Ted, I responded to your post back to Dr. Bray and I would welcome your response back on the questions I raised.
Bette, you may be interested also

http://josephbray.wordpress.com/2012/08 ... he-rescue/

I am fiona1968 on this forum which I run jointly with Dr. Bray

Fiona,

I responded to your request, as you asked. I believe that it is of value for everyone working towards the kind of new thinking that Tom works toward to have some interconnection, to create a network. I don't plan to continue to follow Dr. Bray's site on a continuing basis however as I have a pretty much full time 'job' here and on Tom's Wiki. You and Dr. Bray might find Tom's Wiki of interest also. We are trying to create there the kind of encyclopedic but specialized coverage of metaphysics, primarily oriented to Tom's understanding and model, but including coverage of others that work towards this kind of understanding of consciousness also, that equals in a limited scope the general content on Wikipedia. I have pretty much given up any plans I might have had about publishing a book of my own and putting all my efforts, and all I know, into the MBT Wiki and this bulletin board. Others also work there as editors and one of us has started adding pages describing some of the work and experiences of others besides Tom to the Wiki. I have lately been adding translations of Tom's works that others have been creating. Starting a new group of pages also paralleling the translation work which includes Tom's and my own answers to translators questions asking about particular details and statements within Tom's books which they are finding difficult to understand and thus difficulty to translate. This might also be of general interest to readers as they are likely to have the same questions, especially if they live in countries other than America and speak another language as native to themselves.

If something comes up on Dr. Bray's site that you particularly think I can contribute to, let me know and I will help all I can. Any suggestions that you might have for content on our Wiki would be of value.

Ted