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Say, if I have a big, untidy set of hair.. then The probability of finding hair in my food would probably increase.

Question: Does the hair have to travel from my head and into the food, or can it just appear, due to it's probability, in my food?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:31 pm 
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The correct answer depends on many imponderables. Do you have a dog or cat? Does it have long hair and shed? Does it shed more hair than you do? Does it have more hair than you do? Can you accurately identify the hair in your food as to source?

The final problem is left as an exercise for the student.

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does non-physical pets count?


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Well, like Ted said, once you remove all other possibilities, and verify that it is your hair, regardless - a hair is a macroscopic object compared to quantum physics, thus the likelihood of it going from your hair, to the food, without traversing through the intermittent space, is very small. It is far more likely the hair fell through space into your food. In fact, the likelihood of such event is on the scale of billions of years.

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thanks. so then when I uncover a hair from bought frozen food it is probably only mine one out of a billion times. still could be, then. if i'm lucky.


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1. Sit down in front of a perfectly clean table with your head down. Shake your hair with both hands. See what falls down. You may see some hair and particles falling down. Did you see the actual hair traveling or you saw a consciousness creation of a hair falling down?

2. 2nd Stage. Shave off your head completely, wash it and repeat the experiment of 1. If after a few days you see a hair on the table, then it was the LCS playing with you.

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soprano wrote:
1. Sit down in front of a perfectly clean table with your head down. Shake your hair with both hands. See what falls down.
It is very colorful in my imagination.


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Well, we can take into account Brownian motion with that set up. Let's say he did shave his head, but before and after he shaved his head, in the surrounding air we find little pieces of hairs from his head still bumbling around. These hairs could stay in the air for days before finally coming to a rest somewhere for a short while.

I don't think you can say it is the LCS messing with you with that set up, as there are many other possibilities that could've occurred with that experiment.
I should have also mentioned that when I say, "scale of billions of years", I'm saying like 50 billion years or more for such an event to occur with anything macroscopic in a non-controlled system.

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what if I believe that it is very probable for my hair to pop up 'teleported' here and there around me?


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BrandonHedberg wrote:
Well, we can take into account Brownian motion with that set up. Let's say he did shave his head, but before and after he shaved his head, in the surrounding air we find little pieces of hairs from his head still bumbling around. These hairs could stay in the air for days before finally coming to a rest somewhere for a short while.


It's good to air the rooms once in a while :)

Brandon has a point. Clean the whole room, after shaving off your hair, making sure there is no hair pieces left. Actually, another thing you should do is dye your hair with blue color, so you can identify your own hair. Also, neglect hair pieces less than 1 inch long.

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I could say flying spaghetti monsters surround me and thus miracles happen everyday, cause I believe it.

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I wonder if a barber may want to cut our hair if they read this thread :) They may get scared. LOL.

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BrandonHedberg wrote:
I could say flying spaghetti monsters surround me and thus miracles happen everyday, cause I believe it.
ah, now i understand. ty:)

Claudio; you're a nice and creative supplementary mom. feel free to give me more advices.


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soprano wrote:

It's good to air the rooms once in a while :)

Brandon has a point. Clean the whole room, after shaving off your hair, making sure there is no hair pieces left. Actually, another thing you should do is dye your hair with blue color, so you can identify your own hair. Also, neglect hair pieces less than 1 inch long.

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Okay, so lets say we actually made this into a controlled experiment. What would happen is the food would be checked for hairs, found to have none, then left in a vacuum container (no air, nothing, just empty space) and sits there for a long period of time. After this time, we take the food out and examine it for dyed hairs, hell, even check the DNA of the hair to find a match to it.

Now what's wrong with this? We've (physicists) done this type of experiment with countless other hypothesis and not once have they ever had a hair (or any other macroscopic object) just suddenly and randomly appear inside the vacuum. Never. Now, I don't know if you guys appreciate evidence as much as me, but saying we've done experiments with vacuum containers since the 20's or earlier and not once have we found some random macroscopic object find its way in and have no plausible answer but that it was "teleported" there, says a lot more than just wild guess work that Aristotle might appreciate.

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BrandonHedberg wrote:
Now, I don't know if you guys appreciate evidence as much as me, but saying we've done experiments with vacuum containers since the 20's or earlier and not once have we found some random macroscopic object find its way in and have no plausible answer but that it was "teleported" there, says a lot more than just wild guess work that Aristotle might appreciate.
I have to admit I'm not sure I understood your message here.


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