Being
Experientially
Limited
In
Enculturated
Fallacy

So
Yearling (and old guard)
Scientists
Totally
Embrace
Myth
Stories

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Bette

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Consciousness.

I like that one Bette :)

I think that Tom clarified that "container" of consciousness isn't really the best way to put it. Re-read the posts on the first page.

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TomZen8: The brain is a container of consciousness: I don't particularly like this concept

Tom: nor do I -- in the way that you took it. I am afraid that you have misinterpreted the post entirely.

The brain places no limitation on consciousness. The brain that exists in each present moment limits a characters knowledge and awareness in that moment within the PMR reality simulator. As the PMR character (player) evolves the quality of his consciousness, the brain changes to support that growth. Cut away half the brain and it is like cutting away half the memory and processing capability in your computer -- a degradation of capacity and ability of the player is the result. In the larger reality of consciousness, the brain is only nonphysical data -- a representation of the cumulative result of the interaction between a virtual player's initial configuration and whatever experience has accrued to that virtual character within the PMR virtual reality trainer.

Tom C

According to this short clip the pineal gland the so-called third eye is responsible for the flow of information into and out of the Brain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7KmMcP2 ... r_embedded

Tom Z,

Remember that the brain is part of the virtual reality of PMR. To repeat part of what Tom said above: "the brain is only nonphysical data -- a representation of the cumulative result of the interaction between a virtual player's initial configuration and whatever experience has accrued to that virtual character within the PMR virtual reality trainer". It is like lights in the sky seen with the naked eye versus stars and planets seen through a telescope. The virtual brain exists only in probability as part of the rule set and the probability is collapsed into an observation only if some kind of observation is enabled that can go beyond our raw capabilities. In the case of celestial objects, you need a telescope to collapse the probability field and thus view this additional fractal layer. In the case of the VR brain, this collapse of the probability field can be caused by anything from a fellow cave man with a rock or bone club to a surgeon with a scalpel to an MRI scanner. Each of these causes for the collapse of the probability field results in a different ability to view the virtual reality brain. The brain does not provide data, being virtual. It is derivative, not fundamental. The pineal gland is part of the virtual reality brain, thus virtual in itself and in no way a source of incoming data. Perhaps some kind of PMR technology based upon the PMR VR can make some kind of use of microliths in the pineal gland. Perhaps not. Perhaps there will be pie in the sky bye and bye. But this would have nothing to do with the bigger picture reality of Consciousness Space.

Keep the virtual nature of the reality in your consciousness at all times and you can see through some of these things more easily for yourself.

Ted

This is another of those succinct 'nuggets' that regularly crop up in your posts, Ted. It is advice that I am, since reading MBT, constantly bearing in mind these days, and is one of the many aspects by which this whole thing has completely changed the entire 'background' to my mental (consciousness) existence. I see/think/experience pretty much everything in the light of these considerations - a total internal (ongoing) revolution, I think, within about 18 months! Things will never be quite the same again - as Tom predicted in MBT.

Arthur

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I concur, Arthur. Ted is very wise, he even physically resembles Socrates in this exp. packet (EP?).
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Bette

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All That Is
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Consciousness.

[quote="twcjr"]The question has come up: OK, so I'm not perfect (yet), I sometimes damage my brain, as well as my consciousness quality because of my fear, ego, lack of understanding, and beliefs. ‚ I'm not always one with the Big Picture. So what do I do about it, how do I BE differently?

One way to answer this for us less philosophically less complex folks is:

When it comes to things of the psyche, you literally ARE what you eat (experience).

Eat bad stuff (watch TV, read stuff like Naked Lunch, listen to "thrash" music, gossip, take a KKK style philosophical position) and your psyche gets cruddier, less able to do things and/or to do them well. The (experienced) world gets less and less shinier as a result.

Eat GOOD stuff (I think everyone knows intuitively the difference) and your psyche gets clearer, stronger, and more able to do more things better and more efficiently. And the world gets shinier as you go.

Montana

Hi Tom,
How does it look to you now, as compared to your thoughts on April 03, 2007, above?
Love
Bette

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Consciousness.

I cant wait to see what my conciousness is like out of this PMR. Ive only experienced an OBE once aged 8
It felt normal. I just wondered for maybe more lucky NPMR goers is your conciousness there different to what you feel trapped in this bag of bones ?

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Andy,

Don't we all experience a spectrum of consciousness, even while 'in' PMR? Even if we don't have overt classic paranormal experiences like OOBEs, we all sleep and dream, and have daydreams (reveries), not to mention meditation experiences. In all of these we are 'out' of PMR , temporarily disengaged as it were, (in NPMR), so getting something of a taste of disembodiment. The experiences reported verbally from OOBEs are usually in PMR-couched metaphor, so the actual 'feel' of them can only be perceived by the experiencer, anyway, and not be put into words - except, perhaps, for entertainment value. So be reassured that you haven't really missed out yet!

Arthur

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I concur, one doesn't have to remember the experience to have had it and benefited from it in some way.
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Bette

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All That Is
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Consciousness.

Great thread Tom.

I do enjoy trying to understand that consciousness/brain connection, and the metaphor of the DVD to describe it does work well. Another metaphor that you enlist is that consciousness is software, and the brain is the hardware. Which leaves room to the sentience of which we are to be the programmer of the software, fine tuning the code and thus the quality of the experience.

For myself, I am trying to see everything as thoughts organized into the fabric of the experiential reality of which we the observer are participating in. Which then implies all reality is non-physical and merely an organization of thought by which we then stream into our holographic theater. If I can borrow from Anthony Peak's work, the Bohmian IMAX experience.

Fun times.

Hi YAD: Where did you get that Tom said Consciousness is software? For me Consciousness is both hardware and software. Otherwise, when we die we would have no hardware, so we wouldn't be able to think.

I don't think the DVD metaphor is quite good either. I agree more to what Ted posted here. The brain is virtual. For me it just "constrains" the hardware and software in the virtual reality (PMR).

Claudio

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