This makes sense to me, but NDEs and MBT suggest there is a ‘higher self' which knows a lot more than the fragments which incarnate. If it knows more, it sounds like it's sending li'l ol' us to do its dirty work. I would really like to know what specifically it seeks to learn that it doesn't know already or couldn't find out by asking nicely in NPMR or accessing a database. As I understand it, we can enter into an environment in NPMR as if we are actually ‘there'. Knowing it's ‘not real' might take some of the PMR sense of urgency away, but then again, it may not -look how worked up people get when they are playing games or ‘supporting' their favorite sporting team! Also, I suggest the extra built-in empathy available in NPMR could make up for any lack of gritty, physical involvement.

The probable realities connected with your own system are like the suburbs, say, surrounding a main city. If for simplicity's sake you think of other realities as different cities, then after you leave your own you would pass through the suburbs, then into the country, then after a time into other suburbs until you reached another metropolis. Here each metropolis would represent a conglomeration of consciousnesses operating within an overall general frequency of clearest focus, a high point of psychic communication and exquisite focus in the given kind of reality. Unless you are tuned in to those particular frequencies, however, you could not pick up that reality. You might instead perceive the equivalent of jumbled sound or meaningless static, or jigsaw images. You might simply realize that some kind of activity was there, but without being able to pinpoint it.

Now all consciousness, including your own, is highly mobile. While you focus your attention primarily in your own world, certain portions of your consciousness are always straying. When you are sleeping, then, your consciousness often ventures into other realities, usually in a wandering fashion without tuning itself in to any precise frequencies. Beneath many seemingly chaotic dreams there are often valid experiences in which your consciousness "lights" in another reality, without being attuned to it with the necessary precision that would allow for clear perception. The information cannot be sifted or used effectively and is translated into dream images, as your consciousness returns toward your own home station. Therefore, it has been difficult to achieve any kind of clear picture of such other realities.

Certain particular focuses then bring in different worlds, but unless your consciousness is tuned in with exquisite precision you will not be able to perceive dearly. You will instead pick up at best the ghost images, probabilities, and private data that are not officially recognized as part of the main reality's official structure of events.

Basically, consciousness is freewheeling. Such realities therefore always exist-in your own psyche-outside of your "home station, " and some portion of your own consciousness is always involved in them. Period. There are bleedthroughs, so to speak, in the form of unofficial perceptions that often occur, or "impossible" events that are seemingly beyond explanation. For now think of your own psyche, which is a consciousized identity, as a kind of "supernatural radio." All of the stations exist at once within the psyche. These do not come through with sound alone, but with all the living paraphernalia of the world. The "you" that you recognize is but one signal on one such station, tuned in to a certain frequency, experiencing that station's overall reality from your own viewpoint-one that is unique and like no other, and yet contributing to the whole life of the station.

(Smile:) The supernatural radio that is your entire psyche contains many such stations, however. These are all playing at the same time. It would be highly confusing in this analogy to experience or hear all of these at once, however, so different portions of the psyche tune in to different stations, concentrate upon them, and tune out the others for immediate practical purposes. Because these stations all operate within the same psyche or supernatural radio, the overall quality of the programs will have much to do with the nature of the psyche itself. Radios are wired and contain transformers and transistors. The overall reception is dependent upon the wiring and the inner workings of the radio-and (intently) those workings exist apart from the stations they are meant to pick up. In the same way, the "supernatural psyche" exists apart from the stations of consciousness that it contains. In this case indeed the psyche itself makes the radio, adding ever-new connections and stations

Thanks Ted - I would like to comment further on some of your points:

Ted said:
Almost universally, people feel that things were better when they were children than when they are elderly. It was somehow idyllic then. The world is perpetually coming apart, the end is nigh, Armageddon around the corner.

Ross says:
If this is so (and I probably agree), we do not appear to be gaining in understanding as we get older. If we are not gaining in understanding, our QoC is not improving, is it? If it's not improving, is it any wonder than I question the validity of PMR experience?

Ted adds: Almost universally, not universally. And here in the MBT forums you are trying to get past this. The improvement of the QOC occurs automatically and within your total/higher self. The PMR experience is the catalyst for this development.

Ted said:
The PMR VR brain does not constrain our understanding. The PMR VR brain represents a feed back, when someone is in a position to examine it in some way, from our actual mind in Consciousness Space.

Ross says:
If I understand this correctly, you are implying that our role here is to experience, not to understand. Understanding comes later in NPMR. Fair enough, but lack of understanding makes it difficult to choose wisely in PMR, does it not? It also makes one feel rather powerless (and pissed off!).

Ted adds: Understanding comes when, and if, it comes. Here now or in NPMR later. Assimilation and integration as required occurs within NPMR. And understanding based upon experience simply cannot be had without first having had the experience. Be reasonable in you thinking. Powerless and 'pissed off' is an unreasonable reaction to not being able to have the cart before the horse that draws it.

Ted said:
"The PMR VR is much more intense than the VR of NPMR. Things happen much faster and are much more intense. You can get killed or badly hurt 'out there'. Instant is a relative term, despite semantics, when things happen much more slowly in NPMR than PMR. Why would you think that the effect you have on others and vice versa is readily discernible there in NPMR while not here in PMR? Telepathy, as we apply the term to communication there compared to here, does not mean that you can just reach out and take what you want in the way of knowledge or information from another. Communication and the VR experience still comes to you over the RWW network. You cannot receive what another does not willingly send to you and the VRRE pass through to you. There is still a limiting rule set, just a different one.

Ross says:
This is not quite in keeping with some of the NDEs I have read. Knowledge in NPMR is readily available and it is supposedly easier to share a fact or a feeling than it is to conceal it (I think Newton also said this). I obviously agree that PMR is a place where you can get hurt, but if the main reason to be here is to feel pain, then this only really makes sense if we understand why pain is a good teacher. I'm afraid I don't have that understanding. Pain often twists the mind; it rarely improves our ability to be rational.

Ted reiterates and adds: You still cannot just reach out and 'take' facts and feelings. You certainly cannot do that with understanding. That it is easier in NPMR to share information does not automatically make everyone equal in understanding. You must develop the understanding, not take it. That takes the training of PMR experience or some other experience and experience of interactions is much more readily obtainable in the designated training lab of PMR than elsewhere.

Ted said:
Consider the set up as a whole. NPMR is both a place where we assimilate what we learn on our trips into PMR and is required as a service function to provide the guidance to get us through a PMR experience optimally. Guidance must be provided by an IUOC at a slightly higher level than the subject IUOC. Not every IUOC is capable and qualified to do this work so there is a scarcity of this resource.

Ross says:
This makes sense to me, but NDEs and MBT suggest there is a ‘higher self' which knows a lot more than the fragments which incarnate. If it knows more, it sounds like it's sending li'l ol' us to do its dirty work. I would really like to know what specifically it seeks to learn that it doesn't know already or couldn't find out by asking nicely in NPMR or accessing a database. As I understand it, we can enter into an environment in NPMR as if we are actually ‘there'. Knowing it's ‘not real' might take some of the PMR sense of urgency away, but then again, it may not -look how worked up people get when they are playing games or ‘supporting' their favourite sporting team! Also, I suggest the extra built-in empathy available in NPMR could make up for any lack of gritty, physical involvement.

Ted, you really please that Armageddon is right around the corner? That's one thing that I personally don't agree with. I know that the Bible says it's so, but I only subscribe to certain parts of the bible, and IF Armageddon DOES happen, I don't believe that it's right around the corner. Although lots of doomers and gloomers have been saying that for the last few decades.... I don't believe Tom believes this either with MBT, although he says that we CAN self-destruct if we aren't careful, so we need to make better decisions.

Ted adds: Almost universally, not universally. And here in the MBT forums you are trying to get past this. The improvement of the QOC occurs automatically and within your total/higher self. The PMR experience is the catalyst for this development.

what we cannot change we try to "Take it easy" and "Accept".