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How does a high entropy Character create a low entropy connection to NPMR through control.


What techniques do they/can they use?

There are plenty of fairly evolved loving beings, who meditate, try to lower their entropy, change behaviors and break old patterns, try to stay present in their lives, learning from mistakes and trying to improve etc or any combination thereof with minimal and or intermittent OOM success.

(edited-added) If a HEC (high entropy character) in essence has no control, how can he by control become fully NPMR Operational?
They are still high entropy characters? with fears, obsessions, self indulged, and ego filled intentions. This in itself should block any signal and or create pretty negative, harmful or outright poor results and experiences. Would they use the same techniques as us? if not, what techniques would they use, besides drugs.

I.E
It doesn't seem plausible for an IUOC who works as an Elite Capitalist scheming with his upper class rich friends as they cut up the investment banking scene in order to swindling large groups of people and companies. On top of that, frequent strip clubs and indulge in Adultery, hates his mother and lets his poor sister live in poverty. As he pulls into his driveway with an SL 600 'thinking to himself' that his neighbor with the 735i is a insect compare to him, ignores his kids and artificially goes through the motions.

But Somehow he retires to his oasis room where he connects to NPMR and is touring the oceans, meeting inspecs and manipluating whatever he can via OS as to make his life in PMR-k his own personal pleasure cruise?

I am not trying to be sarcastic, just attempting to unravel the applicability and process therein.


OM

OM this isn't any answer to your question, but it seems like what I read when reading an FAQ about the helium balloon boy in Colorado today and your use of the word "control" above fit. When talking about the difference between a helium (gas) and hot air balloon and flying them the following words were put together, "It's hard to lose control when you don't have control in the first place." For what it is worth.
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Bette

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OM,
What evidence is there that wealthy PMR sociopaths connect to NPMR? Why would they want to or need to?

If they do, it may be on the basis that they have earned credits in previous experience packets (so they find it a doddle to connect to their Higher self). Tom says we can just as easily lose entropy in a life as gain it, and indeed, the more powerful we are, the easier it is to go off the rails and succumb to PMR temptations (power corrupts, and all that).

Vzam

Tom says a High Entropy character through control can connect to NPMR.

I just gave an example of a high Exec type, could be any high entropy individual.
How do you know that the high Exec, by manipulating PMR through OS or whatever, is how his PMR pleasure cruise has been manifested?

The process and application I am interested in.
The How, a HEC can be able to do this.


OM

I think you misunderstood Tom a little.

I think Tom meant, that a NPMR being with high entropy can lower it's entropy through control. The NPMR being is already very well NPMR operational.

As I see it, a PMR human being with a high entropy won't be very operational in NPMR. Expect some very few.

I would also like to know a high entropy being can lower it's entropy by exercising control. What is the process involved? It seems that it can only be done to an extent, and is very limited and short sighted anyway.

For what reason does the Consciousness System "reward" a high entropy intent/act with control involved by lowering the entropy of the being, what is the function of this?




Hey kitty, can you get out of NPMR now!

I think this comes back to the fact that ability and/or inability to consciously experience (direct action and remember) NPMR (have OOBE at will) has NOTHING to do with level of entropy of that IUOC. I could be wrong though, it has happened before.
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Bette

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Bette:

It is not that it has nothing to do, but a high entropy being can train to operate very well in NPMR. Lowering entropy makes it easier and you get help easier from the masters out there, that will help you out but not somebody that is not ready for it.

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You are correct Claudio. I must learn to equivocate. I should have said it has little to do with it. High entropy operating well in NPMR is a recipe for trouble, with a capital T that rhythms with P for pain (that the high entropy being will be responsible for inflicting on others), in my opinion. I would imagine that same being would be just as harmful to others here, or any VR they experienced. I am still working on handling those here in this PMR (and trying to not be one), I'll think I'll stay out of NPMR unless I have a friend with me to protect me. I am game for that though. Fun is fun, and friends are recipes, a required ingredient, for fun often.
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Bette

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specialis

Tom Specifically says

High entropy character through control can achieve a low entropy connection to NPMR.

I am pretty sure he is talking about PMR beings, as well as NPMR beings

OM

I think the main point here is that our experience is guided by our intents, purposes, beliefs and all sorts of other factors that may or may not have anything to do with the level of disorder we 'contain within' our being.

True- that all of these factors really go hand in hand in the sense that- positive intentions, a relatively altruistic 'purpose' and few beliefs will make the transition 'from' PMR to NPMR "smoother" in certain terms, but the most important factor is one's desire to achieve conscious transition of 'personal awareness' from PMR to NPMR.

It wouldn't suprise me at all to discover that there are certain "schools" out there; whose students are of a relatively "high entropy," training individuals to access certain non-physical states without (what we might consider) the benefit of wise, and loving Intentions. These individuals are probably taught very specific techniques for such access- and if the intent is strong enough, and the motivation great enough- there is no rule saying that these people can't become NPMR "lucid."

At least I THINK this is what Tom is getting at in the above mentioned 'statements'.

-Cole :)

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That sounds good to me Cole, Intent guides us no matter (pun intended) where we go, because, well, there we are. Love your Avatar....
Love to you and yours,
Bette

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Can you please link to place where he says that.

From all the lecture slides:

"What You Find In NPMR - Other's Influence"

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"Negative entities -lower entropy through self-control, ego focused on control, power and force"

http://www.mybigtoe.com/LondonIIWorkshopSlides.pdf page 67

Specialis

Toronto Workshop File 2 starting around 37:45 moving beyond 40:00

"you can decrease your entropy in both directions"

"If you can learn to control your mental function you can get into these databases and move into other reality frames. You can do this with negative intent.

He is speaking of Entities, both PMR and NPMR.
We are entities as well remember, operational in multi-dimensions.

"even though they are high entropy characters, they can get a low entropy connection to consciousness but they are limited in how far they can get. People doing negative things with the consciousness system" - TOM C

Tom refers to voo doo, making each other sick etc etc.

Listen for yourself. Certainly appears that he is speaking of NPMR active as well as PMR active beings.

OM

Ah, I was only at file 2, 20 min :).

But does the word "negative entities" does most likely refer to NPMR beings, as the title is "What You Find In NPMR - Other's Influence".

Also, the words entity and being is not the same. The word entity refers to a being outside or in a separate existence.

1 a : being, existence; especially : independent, separate, or self-contained existence b : the existence of a thing as contrasted with its attributes
2 : something that has separate and distinct existence and objective or conceptual reality
3 : an organization (as a business or governmental unit) that has an identity separate from those of its members

But it's obvious that we were not talking about the same thing.

I would like to restate my question. Anyone who can answer it please try :)

"I would also like to know a high entropy being can lower it's entropy by exercising control. What is the process involved? It seems that it can only be done to an extent, and is very limited and short sighted anyway.

For what reason does the Consciousness System "reward" a high entropy intent/act with control involved by lowering the entropy of the being, what is the function of this?"

"There are all sort of beings out there"

I think 'an Entity' and 'a Being' as opposed to 'being' are pretty much interchangeable as we use the words.

I met this entity in NPMR
I met this Being in NPMR

This Means the same thing to me. When we leave PMR we will be entities, so we are already entities, just with part of our consciousness constrained within the Earth VR system.

Specialis,
Our question is now the same. I hope Tom or Ted can give us some extra insight to this process/techniques/loophole etc.


OM