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Thanks alot! Can I go Out of body with this sound? The state of creativity I have experienced, I would call it that however. I am a amateur musician and a newbie songwriter, when in this state I tend to think of music and the best stuff ever comming out of my mind is in that state, too bad I cant remember a 5 minute song.

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Yes, as you are only consciousness, detached from the PMR (physical matter reality).
Your intent is what will move you. Have the intent.

I think I am correct when I say Tom and his fellow comrades at The Monroe Institute often went "out of body" from this state.

I will meditate with it now, before falling asleep, goodnight :)


Thanks again, just as Bette you seem like a very nice person.

Be well!


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Thanks for the offer of the download. I have it, and will use it in comparison to a CD I have recently bought advertised as binaural beat product. I can use all the help I can get !!


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A few months ago I searched the web for free binaural beats tracks, and found some very nice ones.

here is a link to two 1 hour tracks ( boxed nirvana and abyss). http://gnomad.info/index.htm

And this one is very good as well (kunlun II ) http://rapidshare.com/files/155643020/K ... I.mp3.html
More information about kunlun you can get from this topic http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?sho ... 4551&st=60

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I tryed the theta beat and found myself deeply relaxed quicker then Ive ever been before. Sparkling in my body, the bed shook and my mind twist and turned.
However I started to spin, quickly, in al direction, left, right, backward, forward.
I got get this to stop by focusing my intent on stopping the spinning. After a while I got sick to my stomach cause before I could stop I spun for about 2 seconds and that was enough, I took of the headphones and rolled to the side to sleep.
My body felt very strange, cant explain it. Just wanted to let you know how it went, I am going to try it again.

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I tryed the theta beat and found myself deeply relaxed quicker then Ive ever been before. Sparkling in my body, the bed shook and my mind twist and turned.
However I started to spin, quickly, in al direction, left, right, backward, forward.
I got get this to stop by focusing my intent on stopping the spinning. After a while I got sick to my stomach cause before I could stop I spun for about 2 seconds and that was enough, I took of the headphones and rolled to the side to sleep.
My body felt very strange, cant explain it. Just wanted to let you know how it went, I am going to try it again.

Regards


Haha, sounds like a fun and strange experience.

Keep me updated on your progress :)


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I got get this to stop by focusing my intent on stopping the spinning. After a while I got sick to my stomach cause before I could stop I spun for about 2 seconds and that was enough, I took of the headphones and rolled to the side to sleep


Hello:

Welcome to NPMRland :) Try to relax and don't be afraid, you (you are an IUOC) can spin super fast and do any weird things but you have to know that it is in your nature, and it is just a perception. One trick when you feel that is to try to "fly". Change the spin to a translational movement. Then, if you still don't have too much control or you find yourself in a void, imagine a door, a window, a gate, whatever and fly towards that ... don't be afraid ... you'll see ... you'll love it ...

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I tryed the theta beat and found myself deeply relaxed quicker then Ive ever been before. Sparkling in my body, the bed shook and my mind twist and turned.
However I started to spin, quickly, in al direction, left, right, backward, forward.
I got get this to stop by focusing my intent on stopping the spinning. After a while I got sick to my stomach cause before I could stop I spun for about 2 seconds and that was enough, I took of the headphones and rolled to the side to sleep.
My body felt very strange, cant explain it. Just wanted to let you know how it went, I am going to try it again.

Regards


Haha, sounds like a fun and strange experience.

Keep me updated on your progress :)


I sure will! And thanks Soprano for the post, I will try this tonight. I think I have to many assumptions concerning the OBE state and that tends to block it. But then again, how can one not have assumptions? I guess a spontaneous OBE is one way. However, if any newcomers come to this thread its about proof, and im still seeking it. Any form, any how.

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specialis_sapientia wrote:
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specialis_sapientia:

I tryed the theta beat and found myself deeply relaxed quicker then Ive ever been before. Sparkling in my body, the bed shook and my mind twist and turned.
However I started to spin, quickly, in al direction, left, right, backward, forward.
I got get this to stop by focusing my intent on stopping the spinning. After a while I got sick to my stomach cause before I could stop I spun for about 2 seconds and that was enough, I took of the headphones and rolled to the side to sleep.
My body felt very strange, cant explain it. Just wanted to let you know how it went, I am going to try it again.

Regards


Haha, sounds like a fun and strange experience.

Keep me updated on your progress :)


I tried the sound for the second time last night and instead of spinning I imagined myself on a swing-set and it felt.. like I was swinging haha, very amusing.
I then decided that I would jump off the "swing" and try to not land on the ground(not that there were any, it was total darkness, just the sensation) and I jumped and took of straight forward.
After a while my head started to hurt cause of the way I was possitioned. I took of the headphones to sleep and 30 min had passed, it felt like 10 minutes. Very intresting for me, perhaps not for you.

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I tried the sound for the second time last night and instead of spinning I imagined myself on a swing-set and it felt.. like I was swinging haha, very amusing.
I then decided that I would jump off the "swing" and try to not land on the ground(not that there were any, it was total darkness, just the sensation) and I jumped and took of straight forward.
After a while my head started to hurt cause of the way I was possitioned. I took of the headphones to sleep and 30 min had passed, it felt like 10 minutes. Very intresting for me, perhaps not for you.

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Maybe you could try what I purposed :) ?

Just to see what happens!


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specialis_sapientia wrote:
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I tried the sound for the second time last night and instead of spinning I imagined myself on a swing-set and it felt.. like I was swinging haha, very amusing.
I then decided that I would jump off the "swing" and try to not land on the ground(not that there were any, it was total darkness, just the sensation) and I jumped and took of straight forward.
After a while my head started to hurt cause of the way I was possitioned. I took of the headphones to sleep and 30 min had passed, it felt like 10 minutes. Very intresting for me, perhaps not for you.

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Maybe you could try what I purposed :) ?

Just to see what happens!


If you are refering to the calming down and letting go I have tryed, although because of me being a bit scared some feelings come through quite strong. I am able to drown theese emotions though. When I let go the spinning starts, or the swingset. I will try again tonight and perhaps just go with the flow. I felt better control of what was happening the last time though, felt good.


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still going through the tapes and I find the encounter with the entity "Miranon" extremely exciting. In one tape an explorer(cant remember which, perhaps Rosalinda McKnight) meets with a John Osmer who died in salem Oregon 1949(Again, I think). Does anyone know if this information has been verified?



I actually did do a little research on that when I first heard it. I verified that there are Osmers in the area, some fairly old, but I didn't try to contact them of course.

That Miranon is something, eh?

I'm unclear about something s/he said: Once, when giving advice, there was some monologue that went something like: "It is good to walk , leisurely, early in the morning or late in the evening; but it is not good to walk in the middle of the day".

At some visceral level, this seems to have the feel of 'truth' to it. But the left brain is all over this thing: Was that supposed to be true for everyone? It sounded like it. At all times and places? At all latitudes, say even 70Ëš, when the sun spend much of the day on or near the horizon much of the year? Is this true on all planets? if it is true, why in the world would it be? Does the sun overhead smush your aura or something?

THoughts on what this about anyone?

TIA,
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Intresting... The chemical seratonin(Sorry if its the wrong name, I only know it in swedish) is produced when we are exposed to sunlight, the chemical helps to induce the out of body state, therefore this seems paradoxal... But what do I know..

Oh and Mirnaon is a he, atleast they say so!

Regardss!!!

Edit: I havea question concerning OBE. Whenever I try I hear a loud tone. When I get more relaxed the tone changes pitch, it gets more and more loud and it goes higher and higher. Does anyone experience the same thing?


Yes. I have experienced what feels like a loud ringing and combination of several high pitched sounds, and a few times, not at all. It has varied.

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