Why isn't there a section on here about peoples personal experiences of exploration of self after reading the book? Other people like tom exploring adding/testing/ext... about things inside the theory, In my opinion that would help the theory and also give more proof to skeptics or even people like me who are not sure.

I haven't read the book, I have only seen the videos, I really like the theory so far and want to get the book soon.

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Lumpy,

Look around the forums some more. The place is full of just what you ask for. It is just not limited to a particular place. There has generally not been time for or a perceived need to police the forum contents for context so far. Participants get into a stream of consciousness in posts instead of being picky about where things are posted and staying 'on topic'. I have considered requesting that everyone try to be self policing on this but decided before doing so that it was probably a lost cause.

Perhaps in effect, I guess I am making such a request now. One of these days there will be so many participants that we will need more monitors and much better care of what we put where or it will become unusable. There is at present a degree of unusability to these forums in terms of looking for what we want where we think it should be and (not) finding it there. But I rain on the parade enough without harping on that. That is why I started the sections at the bottom of the index page and have requested help from some of the more frequent users in terms of selecting the best posts and threads for various subjects. One does what one can. I am open for volunteers. Just send me an e-mail with a link that you think should go in one of the special sections (see the next paragraph) and I will put it there or you can even do some of this yourself by putting threads or posts that you find particularly valuable in that section of the 'best'.

The plan is eventually to have a well developed FAQ section and explanation of acronyms and special nomenclature and best threads and posts on various subjects, all located at the bottom of the index page. But newcomers are really at a disadvantage and little to do about it until they have read the books of My Big TOE and I see no way around this basic problem except for them to do so. Tom's presentations can never replace the full books as there is just so much time and breath for an in person presentation. The same goes for some of the questions that are repeatedly asked and answered here for newcomers. That is why those sections I mentioned were started, as a place to send them for basic information while they are waiting for the books to arrive or working their way through them.

I suggest you spend more time looking around on the forums. There is a vast amount of information here already. There is a search function and it can find things relevant to your interests and questions. I read all new posts as far as I can tell although I can miss some as I may not remember where the last post in a thread was if several are added between my sessions on the board although I am frequently on the board. You can make posts asking for specific information or send an e-mail to me. I do encourage you to look first before asking questions. You will probably learn more that way as well.

Ted

I was thinking more of a section just for peoples experiences while "exploring"...The different realms(I forgot what you call them). I just don't see any section at this time that people would be able to do that in an organized manner. I really should read the book before I try and discuss things on here about it but what im asking is more to do with helping the forum out.

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Lumpy,
(and other newbies)

These two orientations posts will be a good start -- and perhaps they will explain to you why the stories of individual experience are not a big focus on this forum (as Ted says, they are spread out everywhere). In general, such personal accounts prove nothing objectively to anyone but the experiencer and perhaps to others who have had similar experiences. Consciousness is personal and subjective and to learn anything of significant value, you must experience consciousness directly. Reading about other people's experience provides you with only two choices: you can believe it or disbelieve it -- neither choice can produce any personal growth for you -- but it can produce expectations and beliefs that will hinder your own exploration and understanding. Bottom line: such individual stories and accounts of NPMR experiences may well be entertaining, and you may think that they would be helpful, but they are, in fact, less that useless.

You might try these two posts to start with (if you had followed Ted's advice, you would have run across these and much more. Note: in general anything you read on the MBT forum will probably mean more to you after you have read the books.

An Orientation to Non-physical experience:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2915&start=0

An Orientation to virtual realities:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3043&start=0

Tom

Oh I see. I need to get some money then so I can get the book haha.

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Well Lumpy (is this Wally's friend?), you can also say to the consciousness system, CS I'd really love to be able to read MBT before too long, is there any way that this can be made possible? Then, the trick is, you need to keep your eyes open for possible ways to read MBT. Do you have a major book store near you? Does someone need something done for them that you are better able to do than they, and they may help you then receive resources for the books. Can you manipulate someone that does have the resources to want to read the books, then you can read them after? We manipulate people, and are manipulated all the time, don't fret it isn't the end of the world to do a little manipulating as long as your intent is towards evolution of consciousness towards evolove, in my opinion, and I hope. This isn't about money, and this association (that you have to buy the books and read them, so this may be about money) isn't apt here, in my opinion. Seriously, one of the first things I am going to do when I win the lotto is to buy up a bunch of these books and give them to anyone who wants them, seriously. Hell-o kitty, I'll buy you the books, pm me with an okay, and your address. See how that works?
Love
Bette

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No I don't know wally. I do see what your saying though, I think I can get the book soon so that will be good. Thanks for the kindness.

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You are welcome Lumpy. Lumpy was the best friend of Wally on the old TV show "Leave it to Beaver".
Love to you and yours,
Bette

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Consciousness.

Oh lol I didn't even think of that. I never really watched alot of that show, and I was little when I did.

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Lumpy, you can read the books for free on Google books. I understand that you can use the search feature to get access to the very few pages that are blanked.

Tom

Thanks alot I will do that untill I get money.

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Tom. What's up? I am glad you are back in the board. It's going to be hard for you to catch up with my questions. Don't worry. Take your time. When you get a chance start with the ones I sent you in a PM before you went to the UK.

Hasta luego, tio.

Clau

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