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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:49 pm 
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I never really know if anything is going to be important, or not, when I put physics stuff here, but here this is (Bohm was mentioned recently which is one connection I made).
http://physicsworld.com/blog/2009/12/_s ... in_du.html
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Bette, have you come across any simulations of the AB effect in your travels ?


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RBM wrote:
Bette, have you come across any simulations of the AB effect in your travels ?

Not that I know of. The discussion for that blog is interesting. It seems the earth's magnetic field would be involved to if this is a "real" situation rather than a simulation. They seem to be saying something along the lines that this is a simulation, like a running of a computer program rather than doing the "physical" experiment when they talk about the magnetic field outside of the solenoid.

Have you? Does this have anything to do with ZPF or the casmir effect, do you know?
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The blog comments made in relation to magnetic flux lines of theory vs real was interesting to me.(PMR ) It was that discussion that I began looking for a pointer to a simulation perhaps made by someones computer program who was involved in the comment.

In todays computer technology it's a feasible feat.

This is related in my search to understand ZPE and such. That search brought me to a guy named Doug Sweetser who has a page, Doing Physics With Quaternions. On that page are links to his simulations of particle behavior as calculated by Quaternions. It is a good example of an answer to computer simulations search.

I don't hardly have my head around this, but I feel pulled to it, specifically, and generally to understanding energy from the vacuum principles.


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Have you ever heard of Tom Valone, I just now heard of him. ;)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 036565057#
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RBM wrote:
This is related in my search to understand ZPE and such. That search brought me to a guy named Doug Sweetser who has a page, Doing Physics With Quaternions. On that page are links to his simulations of particle behavior as calculated by Quaternions. It is a good example of an answer to computer simulations search.

I don't hardly have my head around this, but I feel pulled to it, specifically, and generally to understanding energy from the vacuum principles.

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This is a data rich link, thank you. There is a reference to topology that I find interesting. I've been pulled to ZP Energy for years, any physics understanding I have is self taught and sincerely surprises me. The only possible connection to ZPF I might have made would have been the Z in the title of the initial link I posted. Perhaps I am in the habit of asking anyone I talk to about interesting physics "effects" if this (whatever "this" is then) has anything to do with ZP Energy, or the ZPF. I hope I never stop being in awe of the connectionationism. hm That's an interesting word....
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Yes, I briefly met him at his booth at a US Psychotronics Association conference in '95 in Milwaukee WI.

I have tracked his work, ever since.

He has been compared to Tesla by others, while not doing so himself. I feel, and believe he has an extremely high level of integrity.


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Yes, I briefly met him at his booth at a US Psychotronics Association conference in '95 in Milwaukee WI.

I have tracked his work, ever since.

He has been compared to Tesla by others, while not doing so himself. I feel, and believe he has an extremely high level of integrity.

Awe. :)
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This seems important: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_monopole
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That's something new to me, so I poked around the web a bit, starting with your link - so thanks for that.

Wiki wrote:
The magnetic monopole was first hypothesized by Pierre Curie in 1894,[4] but the quantum theory of magnetic charge started with a 1931 paper by Paul Dirac.[5] In this paper, Dirac showed that the existence of magnetic monopoles was consistent with Maxwell's equations only if electric charges are quantized, which is observed.


Dirac's work is very important in consciousness work if Tillers white papers work is any indication:
What does the Dirac Negative Energy Sea Mean and Why Has Todays Orthodox Physics Neglected it?

In addition I have read a bit about Dirac and negative energy at Tom Bearden's site.

My agreement with the importance is only at the intuitive level as the formal body of Physics at that level is over my head. Shucks, even if it turn out to be a dead end, it is important, eh ?


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omg, omg, omg, I mean, oh our AUM, oh our AUM, oh our AUM. :) Most my stuff is intuitive, too, and there is a certain aspect to me, my seeing connections, in that I don't already know what is impossible, and stuff. Can someone please tell me/us if this is important to Reality, please? Isn't this fun. I love this/these discussions so much, you don't even know....
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RBM, does the idea that E=mc2 is the square mean anything to you? E2=m2c4
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Only in the conventional sense of the PMR physics.


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Okay, thanks. Is it associated with negative energy (whatever that is), do you know?
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It's related only in the broadest sense of energy systems and energy theory.

From Tom Bearden's Response to ARPA-E :
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As an unexpected bonus, we also include an explanation (which was known to Dirac!) of how to directly and rather simply engineer physical reality as you wish. Please have the proper physicists study that area intensely; the Soviet Union already is well-aware of this area and its development. Also, a very fine team of physicists, led by Dr. Dan Solomon, have presently published rigorous papers in leading physics journals pointing out that the arbitrary removal of negative energy from physics in 1934 was a grave error, totally against scientific method.


There is a verifiable history of how technology came to this point but what isn't verifiable is the intention which provided the motive force. Just be aware their are a lot of vested interests and personal filters interwoven this story.

In short, the verifiable history goes back to Maxwell's paper of 1864 which includes use of Hamilton's quaternions. Those formulations were regaged (in math jargon). This resulted in a 'fork' and technology took the new fork.

What are the pieces that you are trying to get to fit ?


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