Tom,
how are the existing big religions and their consistency fitting into the big picture ?
According to them, a long line of prophets ending with Moses, Jesus, Muhammed have been in PMR
and basically saying same things.
I remember you mentioned at least once, "organized religions" when you discussed about the Seth speaks..
Are these organized religions coming from the same organziation ? who stands behind this org ?

One of the most important questions for me...

Alper

Hi Alper
In my opinion they don't because they are based on a special person/people having access to some secret information that allows it/them to control others with belief systems based on fear of death. Religion is no longer relevant, spirituality based on intent is, in my opinion. I can't imagine what Tom might say.
Love
Bette

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Alifo,

Most of the worlds successful religions have threads of truth running through them. They also have threads of irrelevant dogma and ritual running through them. Often they were started by, or coalesced around the teachings of, persons with some genuine spiritual quality and understanding. However, once they become "organized" and the founding leaders of spiritual quality are gone (spiritual quality is not intellectual and cannot be transferred from one person to another), they tend to quickly mutate to find power and influence in appealing (pandering) to the masses of people who have much more fear than they have spiritual understanding. To generalize this concept: most large organizations evolve in this way whether they are selling a point of view, salvation, or automobiles because, in this PMR elementary school, fear dominates the human psyche. Fear (ego, emotional needs, pride, wants, desires, beliefs, hopes, expectations, etc.) is the handle by which men are most easily manipulated. PMR power and sometimes wealth accrues to those (organizations or individuals) who can manipulate or control large numbers of people. An attractive power to which most organizations eventually gravitate (evolve) even if they were not initially formed (as most are) to exploit the naïve children, critters, and stuff that inhabits this PMR kindergarten.

It is just the way things are with both organizations and individuals - 1) Most everyone (individual and organization) tries to control/manipulate whatever they can to assure that things will work out to their personal advantage. 2) Most everyone's life (individual and organizational), i.e., their intent and choice, is dominated and driven by their personal fear. Those two facts, more than any other, create the reality we live in.

Tom C

And the tragedy is that the majority (thank goodness though, not all) of 'rational' people (the supposed leaders of thought) synonymise any notion of spirituality with those organised religions, and thus throw the baby out with the bathwater, and ne'er a backward glance. The consensus view then becomes that any consideration of the Big Picture is irrational, and/or the stuff of trash culture. Not good for evolution here in this PMR.

Arthur

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Alifo,

Has this thread provided the information you were seeking? If not, respond here or send a PM to me.

Ted

There have been some thoughts of mine shared at this Amazon discussion thread, http://www.amazon.com/tag/metaphysics/f ... QJ61JWBG6H, if anyone cares to look. I find this one of the most important topics when considering the needs of many people need to be considered always.
Love
Bette

Oh yeah, I meant to add, "look at me" because I usually say it right out front when I want someone to pay attention to me. I usually say, "but enough about me, let's talk about you, what do you think of me."

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what is?
Consciousness.

I think you are adorable :)