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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:04 am 
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One of the routines I put together on BWgen is one that walks me from 22hz BFO down to zero and then back up to 22 hz again over about 20 minutes.

It has a little reading thingy at the bottom that tells what the exact (to the tenth of a hertz) BFO operating at that moment, which changes about every 5 seconds. It turns out that each separate BFO is highly nuanced as to its unique 'flavor'... the over tones and/or phasing that I hear with some of them are hard to explain. Coming in on zero hertz feels like what it must feel like (I imagine) to be unfolding into a fresh universe. Hard to explain.

There are some mechanical noise artifacts as well. One head phone vibrates unusually at a certain hz and no other, for example.

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RamonThompson wrote:
It's very easy to use. Good luck!
Hi Ramon,

thank you for your help.

I am converter impaired :(( Sorry, I need to be guided what to do with MP3 encoder settings. Please could you help me? What box to check here?

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:46 am 
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Lena,

I did some reading and the setting it is on, variable bitrate, looks like it will work just fine. It seems there have been some digital audio players in the past that wouldn't play VBRs but most modern ones have no problem with it. I would try that and if you have any problems playing back the file just go back and do the constant bitrate. Because of the relative uniformity of binaural tracks there might not be much difference between the two settings anyway.

This is a little above my level of expertise. The program I used didn't even ask me this question. It WAS easy! I promise! I'll look when I get a chance (not home right now) and see if I can figure out which one my program used. Someone else here might have more experience with this and help you better than I can.

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Tom, I'm very grateful for this software thread. I liked the HemiSync principle, but the tapes were either directive or the freeform ones had non-stop music that got in the way of this musician. I always wondered why you couldn't just have plain vanilla beats. So now I've tried gnaural, and experienced the bliss of 4hz without music, I can look forward to using binaural beats more often.

SBaGen is another freeware binaural generator, but without a studio-type interface. I haven't played with it, but it comes with lots of sample files that you can edit to make your own tracks. They include the Monroe Focus levels 3 to 27, and Holosync frequencies. Some interesting text files analyse the samples - and would let you recreate them in another program. For instance:

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Focus Levels/Frequencies

F3 59[1.2]-110[1.3], 288[3.7]

F10 100[1.5], 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0]

F12 100[1.5], 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0], 400[10.0],
500[10.1], 600[4.8]

F15 100[1.5], 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0], 500[7.05],
630[7.1], 750[7.0]

F21 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0], 600[16.2], 750[15.9],
900[16.2]

F22 Same as F21

F23 400[3.9], 503[4.0], 600[4.0], 750[3.9], 900[4.0]

F24 50[0.75], 400[3.9], 503[4.0], 600[4.0], 750[4.0],
900[4.0]

F25 503[4.0], 600[4.0], 750[4.0], 900[4.0]

F26 400[3.9], 503[4.2], 600[4.0], 750[4.0], 900[4.0]

F27 Same as F26

Example: The notation 503[4.2] should be understood to
represent a beat frequency of 4.2 Hz between two carriers
equally separated from 503 Hz (i.e., 500.9 and 505.1 Hz).

Amplitudes are generally maintained about 20 dB above
background 1/f (pink) noise and/or surf.

The Monroe Institute equipment used to generate the tones is/was
completely analog so precise control of frequency and phase was not
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Padawan Learner wrote:
Used Gnaural a few more times with pink noise on and off(seamed to be more effective with it on). As i said before I don't have the tech knowlege to set up what Tom perscribes above so have been using the default setting. I seem to of developed a constant 'dull' headache(but this is probably down to me jumping in at the deep end as usual! i.e too advanced a program for my level) so am going to stop with the binaural beats and go back to repeating a mantra(feel this is a more 'free' style approach).

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Had another 'bash' with the default setting this morning and was VERY balancing/calming and with no headache afterwards. Theorize that the above stated headache may be down to my brain being SO out of balance. Liken this to training a muscle group in the gym for the first time. As you have never focused your training on that particular body part before then after training it, it's gonna be sore! But after your body adapts and it becomes the 'norm' the soreness disapears. Just a theory.

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Monty wrote:
Tom, I'm very grateful for this software thread. I liked the HemiSync principle, but the tapes were either directive or the freeform ones had non-stop music that got in the way of this musician. I always wondered why you couldn't just have plain vanilla beats. So now I've tried gnaural, and experienced the bliss of 4hz without music, I can look forward to using binaural beats more often.

SBaGen is another freeware binaural generator, but without a studio-type interface. I haven't played with it, but it comes with lots of sample files that you can edit to make your own tracks. They include the Monroe Focus levels 3 to 27, and Holosync frequencies. Some interesting text files analyse the samples - and would let you recreate them in another program. For instance:

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Focus Levels/Frequencies

F3 59[1.2]-110[1.3], 288[3.7]

F10 100[1.5], 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0]

F12 100[1.5], 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0], 400[10.0],
500[10.1], 600[4.8]

F15 100[1.5], 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0], 500[7.05],
630[7.1], 750[7.0]

F21 200[4.0], 250[4.0], 300[4.0], 600[16.2], 750[15.9],
900[16.2]

F22 Same as F21

F23 400[3.9], 503[4.0], 600[4.0], 750[3.9], 900[4.0]

F24 50[0.75], 400[3.9], 503[4.0], 600[4.0], 750[4.0],
900[4.0]

F25 503[4.0], 600[4.0], 750[4.0], 900[4.0]

F26 400[3.9], 503[4.2], 600[4.0], 750[4.0], 900[4.0]

F27 Same as F26

Example: The notation 503[4.2] should be understood to
represent a beat frequency of 4.2 Hz between two carriers
equally separated from 503 Hz (i.e., 500.9 and 505.1 Hz).

Amplitudes are generally maintained about 20 dB above
background 1/f (pink) noise and/or surf.

The Monroe Institute equipment used to generate the tones is/was
completely analog so precise control of frequency and phase was not
possible.


Is it just me or does listing this information evoke a certain disrespect toward a Mr Robert A Monroe and his lifetimes dedication to the greater good? The next spare 244 pounds i have is going to the Monroe Institute via Amazon for the real deal(The Gateway Experience).

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Padawan Learner wrote:
Is it just me or does listing this information evoke a certain disrespect toward a Mr Robert A Monroe and his lifetimes dedication to the greater good? The next spare 244 pounds i have is going to the Monroe Institute via Amazon for the real deal(The Gateway Experience).

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No, his dedication the the greater good would amount into knowledge that can be freely used by of all humanity. The knowledge shouldn't be restrained to a single company for all eternity should it?

It's up to the individual whether the money is used more productively to buy the products or use them for something else. Those who are going to buy the products will do it anyway regardless of some technical information, but those who wouldn't buy them, either because of lack of money or hesitation could create some files for themselves, to their own use.


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Need some help here, I downloaded GTK but when installed the only option I have is to uninstall it, any ideas?

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specialis_sapientia wrote:
Padawan Learner wrote:
Is it just me or does listing this information evoke a certain disrespect toward a Mr Robert A Monroe and his lifetimes dedication to the greater good? The next spare 244 pounds i have is going to the Monroe Institute via Amazon for the real deal(The Gateway Experience).

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No, his dedication the the greater good would amount into knowledge that can be freely used by of all humanity. The knowledge shouldn't be restrained to a single company for all eternity should it?

It's up to the individual whether the money is used more productively to buy the products or use them for something else. Those who are going to buy the products will do it anyway regardless of some technical information, but those who wouldn't buy them, either because of lack of money or hesitation could create some files for themselves, to their own use.


Not to mention the Hemi-Sync stuff goes through a LOT of audio engineering that you can't easily recreate with just having the binaural frequencies for specific focus levels.

I'm thinking of trying to LOA myself into a Gateway Voyage at the actual TMI either late this year or sometime next year. It's definitely gonna take some bit-shuffling for me to be able to afford it. :P

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Lena,

I did some reading and the setting it is on, variable bitrate, looks like it will work just fine. It seems there have been some digital audio players in the past that wouldn't play VBRs but most modern ones have no problem with it. I would try that and if you have any problems playing back the file just go back and do the constant bitrate. Because of the relative uniformity of binaural tracks there might not be much difference between the two settings anyway.

This is a little above my level of expertise. The program I used didn't even ask me this question. It WAS easy! I promise! I'll look when I get a chance (not home right now) and see if I can figure out which one my program used. Someone else here might have more experience with this and help you better than I can.

Ramon

Thank you Ramon for your help. I opened your link and this is a program, that I've got. There is no urgency at all. It can wait, because I am using my loptop, and it is all right.

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Greetings All,

J.S. Epperson is one of the premier Hemi Sync-binaural beats music composers. I have several of his titles and can vouch for the quality, top notch. One of his titles "Higher" has been one of my favourites for years. It's not for everybody cause it's music mixed in with the binaural beats but I've found it useful. In any case he has quite an offer on his website for the next month that some of you might want to take advantage of. In my opinion, it's a pretty win-win deal, check it out, nothing to loose.

http://higher-music.com/downloads

Here are his comments on ripping binaural beats cds, bit rates and file formats:

http://higher-music.com/tutorial/how-to ... l-beats-cd

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To clarify, I was not referring to the many pleasant binaural beat music tracks, referred to by gerik, and sold as such. I was referring to the Gateway Experience Series, which I bought many years ago. It is meant to provide a coherent structured approach to meditation and psychic exploration. The earlier preparatory Waves contain little music (except as preludes and postludes), and I still find those helpful. Unfortunately, I have never been comfortable listening to the later Waves, because TMI felt it necessary to provide a synthesiser music backing throughout the whole of each tape. I'm sure it's a purely personal reaction that I find the music intrusive, as many people reportedly don't actively notice the backing music in a movie, whereas I always do.

As for the specific accusation that analysis of TMI Focus levels evinces disrespect for Bob Monroe, I would have thought that it shows the opposite. I doubt anyone would dispute that claims about binaural entrainment have first to be validated and replicated before they can be accepted as fact. However, TMI seems to have gone a long way beyond that, and claims to have achieved and mapped an important series of discrete and reproducible psychophysiological states. People who analyse the different Focus waveforms and disseminate data allowing independent third-party evaluations are taking the claims seriously, which is in fact how scientists pay respect.

Funnily enough, the day before I revisited this board for the first time in ages, I was rereading Ultimate Journey, where Bob Monroe clearly stated that our future evolution depends on us developing our scientific side. People who are more aesthetically or devotionally oriented may disagree with that assessment, of course.


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To Monty,specialis_sapientia & anyone else I may of offended with my sledge hammer remarks.
Yes I fully understand and respect your answers and I thankyou for pulling me up on this issue(much needed as my character has more floors than,well let's say a very tall building).
Since discovering big picture truth I can see that there is a king pin that has and always will hold mankind back in many ways. This one relatively simple thing has/does cause SO many problems to mankind and Earth and it is(drum roll please)THE PATENT SYSTEM.If all knowledge became open source then potentially the focus could be one of growth and not one of greed. So much is held back from us as it conflicts with short term business plans and that is part of our undoing(IMHO).
So yes you are spot about the 'greater good' but feel from a current 'realistic' ;-) view, The Monroe Institute needs every last Cent to continue with it's work and also if it wasn't for Bob's devotion we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
Hope THIS ;-) hasn't offended anyone else and I shall be more mindful of my remarks in the future(I have a lot to learn about entropy reduction - please excuse my ignorance).

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This does open up an interesting topic.

I wonder if there is a consensus (or ruling from on high) on a rule set for working with TMI proprietary information, and what constitutes the latter.

[As disclosure, I must reveal that I have volunteered to coordinate TMI group activities in my town...though I am a very lazy coordinator and have not done anything yet...never attended a TMI event either]

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I'd love to volunteer for TMI. Actually, I'd love to be employed by TMI even more!

Imagine working for an organization centered around the exploration of consciousness...I can't think of anything I'd rather do.

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any openings for that kind of position anywhere. None that I've found, anyways. :P

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