I´ve read all three books but I still have some questions about how your planned experience packets relates to accidents.
From what I understand the planned experience packets gets you to incarnate in an enviroment with people and events in order to challenge you to work on your faults.

But how does accidents with a fatal outcome factor into this? If you were put into an airplance that crasches does that mean that it was planned to happen or can accidents happen to a person
even though I was planned to live much longer and experience and work on more of my problems. Or are accidents just a random components that can happen.

I´ve also read Tom saying that you can choose to take a longer or shorter time while in pmr, which I assume means it was planned before.
Tom also recited a story of when he knew in advance he was going to meet his future wife while still beeing a teenager, was that event a possible future or was it pretermined in his experience packets, if it was, was it the work of synchronicity?

Sincerely
Karl

Karl,

Accidents are accidents. Things happen. This virtual reality is projected into the future based upon probabilities, not predestined occurrences. You can have a life much shortened compared to expectations by accident. Most lives are not selected on the basis of major planning of details. Some particulars make it suitable for planned lessons, for instance, and one takes ones chances with the rest.

Tom's meeting up with his future wife years later was based upon predictions from the probable future database. It could have been aborted by accident. Uncertainty is something that we all must deal with in our PMR lives.

Ted

Ok, I see.

But isn´t it also true that you can be pushed into a certain direction, which makes you miss a certain fatal event, or meet that special loved one.

Since this pmr reality is a probable one things and event can sometimes change.
Tom mentioned that items could be rearranged if not messed to much with established history: A man found out he was out of beer (even though he was certain they were in the fridge) when he went to the store he meet his future wife. (I think he called this synchronicity)

Why does this synchronicity sometimes happen, what mechanism is behind it and what makes it happen to some people (miss a fatal plane crash for example)

I hope you get what I mean :)

/Karl

Karl,

This is not a machine. It is based upon consciousness. You have guides/guidance available from the system. They can give you nudges as you mention to catch your attention, induce you to take a certain action. You can be led towards or away from certain things as the Consciousness Systems considers to be best for your development.

Ted

Thanks for clarifying these things for me so quickly :)

But I still have some more questions about accidents, what about accidents on a global scale.
I know that if earth is destroyed from an asteroid we would all be fine and would find another place with containers to host our consciousness.
But wouldn´t it be a waste of a perfectly good learning lab?

In the same way to people can be protected from accidents is the Earth itself protected, I know this i just a virtual reality and not important so the planet could
just be recreated with some line of code, but does it work like that or would the consciousness system (or game designer) not interfere.

If I were playing a game on my computer it would seem pretty pointless and not much players to control if the enviroment was destroyed, leaving me with not much to do and not any interaction.

Sincerely
Karl

Karl,

Never fear that 'they' will be bored and the Consciousness System fail to find useful things to do, with or without this particular PMR. We are a small part of a very large whole. A new system would be started or everyone involved would redistribute to other PMRs. We are not at the 'need to know' level to know what the probable future of our system is or how, if or in what manner it might be manipulated to avoid destruction. Your 'pay grade' and mine are simply not that high. We are here to deal with and learn from whatever does happen. There is no basis for being concerned about waste. Dealing with uncertainty is part of the lesson plan.

Ted

Ted,I just wanted to say that I agree with your first reply above. I have a very hard time believing that people choose lives full of suffering.I see alot of suffering upclose on a regular basis at work.I just cannot accept that these people willfully chose their situations,nor can I imagine that they somehow needed it or deserved it.

I think that,unfortunately,things go awry here in PMR and this is it's nature ,though it's open to some influence.

With that said,I don't mean to say that nothing can be gained from hardship.There are many amazing people that carry on in the face of tragedy and are an inspiration to all.These are obviously low entropy-high QoC people.I guess I just get annoyed-angry at the strict new agey belief that even ,say,child victims of sensless wars choose to get burned and loose limbs etc.

Jeff while I do think we chose our life no matter if it "good" or "horrible", I don't think those children planned to be burned they only knew there was a probability of something like that happening. That experience though is what is important, what that FWAU experienced was a vivid lesson with more pain than most. Although I am working to achieve some magical "no pain, no pain" evolution like Tom probably has grown to be able to do, most of us need pain to pay attention. The next life will carry that lesson strongly then, and the next, and on and on until that IUOC can finally send FWAU to PMRs that don't require so much pain to get their attention.

There are IUOC sending FWAU at various levels of evolution which require pain, sucks but it is what it is. Everyone goes through it though, it's "fair" in that way.
Love
Bette

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Jeff,

Remember that our NPMR Virtual Self has a different perspective than we do as our PMR Virtual Self. It experiences a much longer time frame, continuous over many thousands of PMR lifetimes, and with substantial time in between each of these experience packets to assimilate the experience and heal the wounds. Our NPMR VR self has a perspective based on the different rule set where it cannot be in pain as having no body, cannot go hungry or starve as needing and indeed being unable to eat and so forth. It does interact and this leads to gradual learning, improvement of QoC and lowering of entropy. However this is on a much slower time scale than can potentially occur here within PMR. From NPMR we have the perspective to show that the gain is worth the pain, difficult as that may appear from PMR and especially at a younger age. Even here in PMR as we age sufficiently, we can begin to look back and see that despite the pains it was worth what we might have gained.

You might feel that your guidance doesn't have to face the pains and don't get it and that you aren't ever going to let them talk you into another trip here unless they can guarantee a better experience next time. As you assimilate the past experience however, you will eventually come to recognize that it was worth it for the gain that you really can only experience fully until after it is in fact assimilated. You recognize that accidents can happen, but taking the risk is the only way to achieve the gain.

Ted

Makes sense,thanks for the replies.

Jeff,

I don't have a lot to add to what Bette and Ted have said but there is another factor to consider.

There is a lot of learning involved for the individual and the system as a whole from suffering. Individually, it can be a great challenge to overcome the adversity caused through emotional and physical suffering. Hellen Keller comes to mind. Most would say that they couldn't imagine choosing to be born blind and deaf but look what she was able to do and the impact it had on the world. It's inspirational to say the least. For those who have to be caretakers for handicapped children or adults, there is a lot of learning involved in the task. Selflessness, compassion, and unconditional love are developed in many of these people. As another example, look at what happened after Hurricane Katrina or the earthquake in Haiti. A tremendous outpouring of love in the form of volunteers and monetary and supply donations occurred which gave thousands, perhaps millions, of people the opportunity to express love for others they had never met.

We experience ourselves in this physical reality as individuals but it's all one consciousness. We all are contributing in our own way to its evolution. Those that choose to "take one for the team" deserve our utmost respect and compassion.

Ramon

Ramon,
Thanks for that input.These are helpful views to consider from a big picture perspective.It's difficult to remember that we are part of something larger sometimes.

In this view,it may be that many who suffer together at the hands of ,say,a specific disease or disaster,may indirectly make an impact collectively rather than individually.I see what you mean.

[I hope these comments are useful to Karl too. I didn't mean to hijack the thread, but I saw a good place to chime in w/ my opinion.]

Here is an interesting article on synchronicity: http://tomkenyon.com/synchronicities

The last one of these looked like a blog I get in my email from a Lou Majors called AWAKE, co-incident? perhaps.
Love
Bette

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what is?
Consciousness.