I wonder if a key step is to explicitly ask our-c-selves what might be on our-C-minds

after reading MBT and trying to absorb this new information, I was kinda of in a state of well "now what".

reminded me of the film "The Gods Must be Crazy"...a line there "better to know your destination, and not know how to get there, than to know how to get there, but not know your destination"

I actually said to an empty room "I wish someone would tell me what I am supposed to be doing with this information!"

strangely....about a half hour after this, my widowed mother showed up at the house without notification (something she never does) under very unusual circumstances - and I took as part of my answer that I was to not lose focus on looking after her

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Does this PMR make my butt look big?

You are never in an emtpy room Randy, that is how it works.
Love
Bette

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Wow, this is an awsome thread! Justins insights seem to resonate well with me.

Keep up the threads as I am always learning from you guys!

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Your destination is not so important, as a process of getting there. A destination is a probable future, and uncertainty is a big part of future and a process of getting there. Uncertainty is a part of PMR rule set, that makes our VR more efficient, since not every single step can be calculated. Interaction with people is based on our awareness of their feelings and emotions, and uncertainty keeps us alert, makes our relationship not dull and boring, and it helps us to learn what we are able and capable in our life. It brings up to a surface our true self, if we want it or not.

Lena

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A PM reply from Tom, answering a query something along these lines not long ago, is worth sharing here:

Arthur: ... If things go well, there presumably comes a point in this process when all are aware to a high degree, of their one-ness (projects like MBT would be playing their part in this). Would the PMR then lose any further use (become redundant), and be 'winked-out' by the CS, or is it kept in a condition of dynamic equilibrium between the two states by the influx of IUOC/FWAU 'freshers', keeping the pot stirred, so to speak?

Tom: That point is so far away that any answer must be more theoretical and academic than practical. By that time, the nature of NPMR might change as well which may change the context of the PMR-NPMR interface. But assuming all else stays as it is, I would think two things would be likely and would happen more or less simultaneously. 1) As the spiritual carrying capacity of PMR increases, some fresh or intermediate units of consciousness could be introduced without compromising the steady progress of the whole -- slowing it perhaps but not stopping it. 2) PMR would refocus its curriculum on advanced challenges beyond just not eating your neighbor’s children. :-)

Arthur

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"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

Arthur,

Also keep in mind that learning about the greater CS and your relationship to it, even if better current PMR behavior results, does not represent real change at the being level. That occurs with time and further training. There is always more to learn and it is the modification at the very base, digital code level of your being that is the governing factor.

Ted

Absolutely right of course, Ted.

Arthur

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"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

yes, good point. How you go about something, how you treat the people connected to a project, restraining ego when going through your decision tree, is almost always more important that the actual goal of the mission.

there remains however the responsibility to interact with PMR in explicitly constructive ways, especially once achieving enough syntropy to generate surplus energy available for work...maybe this is a delusion I need to be relieved of.

I can't quite get to the point of thinking I can get away with waiting out the rest of my life playing scrabble and just entertaining myself.

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Randy,

I think that if you are seriously engaged in the process and aware of the Reality behind the surface appearance, the CS/your guidance will not let you sit "out the rest of my life playing scrabble and just entertaining myself."

So has been my experience. In fact my life has appeared to be an escalating series of problems to deal with in my life and to help others solve in their lives. And it can't ever be a problem or combination of problems of ordinary proportions but always in the form of a blivet. Don't panic when the first 10 pounds hits you.

Ted

yeah, I had one of those a few years back...still in the process of regaining my composure

maybe this is superstition, but I have this idea that if I get out in front of the curve and make an effort to be corporately useful (at least during this period of relative stability and surplus resources), the HS won' t feel compelled to stick a cattle prod up my butt again to ensure the passing time is not wasted (or more accurately, stand aside when shiatsu is about to hit the fan).

If we embrace this model of little "us" being disposable avatars in a video game, and real "us" being players of the game at the controls, I wonder if the real "us" (FWAU/HS) just gets bored and thinks.."lets go down this dangerous looking alleyway to see what happens"

If we take this a step further, and "accept on faith" (for those PMR bound) that little "us" is a temporary illusion, we cannot die, and PMR is playground, fearlessness starts to make sense as a basic MO in order to exploit the experience.

This brings to mind that teenage girl who wants to (or is?) sailing solo around the planet - does she not capture this MBT value in its purest form.

Like spending a day at Disneyworld and being afraid to take some of the rides, how stupid would that be.

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Accepting the uncertainty of prodding helps, as does realizing why it's there. I mean it's pretty hard to respond rather than react to that, for me anyways. You are "accidentally" interacting here with quality thereby not just playing solitaire, right?

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Consciousness.