From my understanding of dark matter is that it takes up around 90% of our universe yet we cannot see it, we can only see the effect it has on things. As well dark energy is what is expanding our universe. I cannot help to think physicists might be trying to make something out of this theory because they cannot see past the physical part. Could this be an effect to do with NPMR or some other reality??? I am just throwing this out there as I have no clue but find this interesting.

I find it interesting too :)

I did a presentation on the metric expansion of space and dark energy two weeks ago in my physics class.

I still don't know if there is any particular connection between dark matter and energy and NPMR, I don't think so. Both are right on the edge of physics, so everything we could come up with at this point would be pure speculation.

This will give you a sense of the magnitude :)

hubstr,

Dark matter (and dark energy also) is arrived at by working backwards from the observed behavior of galaxies and the total mass and behavior of the universe as presently known. It is the amount of additional matter that would have to be added to and spread out as they calculate and where they calculate beyond the known and observed amounts, to make the present equations of physics work out. In layman's terms, dark matter is a fudge factor required to make the math work out with observations and present knowledge. And it is a pretty damn big fudge factor. Not likely to be a popular terminology with the physics and cosmology crowd coming from a mere engineer.

Dark energy and dark matter do not originate with NPMR as NPMR is a different VR from PMR with different rule sets. Consciousness crosses over and is universal in scope but not mass nor energy.

Ted

SS,

Great graphic !! I grabbed it !

Before MBT I used to think souls were what was being ignored in the equations, now I don't have a clue again.
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i'm half way through a 12 hour lecture on dark matter/energy, and in my opinion, the whole thing seems to rest on a house of cards. i know many scientists worked very hard over many decades to devise the theories that support the dark matter/energy theory, so i mean no offense to the real scientists that might read this. as a non-scientist i was a bit disappointed to discover how many flimsy precursor components went into the construction of the DM/E theory. perhaps the lecture's creators failed to provide better proof for each of the theory's scientific assertions because of time restraints, or just maybe they didn't have anything better to present...?

i know each new discovery goes through an initial period of peer review, followed by the poking, prodding, and scrutiny required to satisfy the scientific community, but maybe there wasn't enough scrutiny performed on some of the supposedly 'correct' assumptions present in the foundation of this weighty theory -at least that's how my little brain perceives it:P

Was the lecture intended for a non-scientist audience ?

RBM, possibly. it's a DVD set from 'the teaching company' that costs $254.00. but that doesn't mean it would qualify as a college course. i agree with this review:

"Overall, a very interesting cosmology course. The potential buyer should be aware that 1) the course covers a lot of technical ground at a rapid pace (gravity as curvature of spacetime, quantum mechanics, the cosmic microwave background, curvature of the universe -- positive, negative or flat, string theory, etc), and 2) each lecture builds on all the previous lectures. This can be quite fascinating if you are willing and able to keep up, but I could see a non-technical listener getting lost pretty quickly.

anyway, i might have been a bit critical in my first post. i just think the whole theory is predicated on a lot of assertions that verge on being 'speculative', or at least not 100% proven -even a few negligible percentage points here-and-there start to add up i.e. a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.

The Teaching Company which I have always loved, and purchased an Einstein course from is quickly getting rid of it's stick since everything is changing. Physics and Religion courses are marked down to the max, I've noticed.
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