I have a question and would like your thoughts on this if you would.

Doomsayers ie the conspiracy side, figures such as Alex Jones for instance and I guess David Icke to some extent.

Now I know these guys in many eyes are questionable and make a living from information they give from books and dvd etc and usually if a person falls upon these dark topics it has the power to shatter a persons whole outlook and change there life, it did with me.

My questions:

Have these figures a roll to play?
Seems like some religious groups are using topics like this, is it a form of brain washing? and shattering of ones minds like in mind control techniques.
Is the Ego creating external enemies such as Illuminati or world elite? (I describe the Ego in a Eckhart Tolle concept), even though some would say the Illuminati is not what one thinks.

I have many questions like this and have just started to read Toms first book so eventually a lot of my questions maybe a little clearer to me. I usually ask myself and questions are answered in a syncronised manner, but with conspiracy topics manifesting in real life I always get drawn back to looking into the wide range of subjects which are pretty dark.

I can feel something changing, like something is in the air and after a very strange meditative experience I got the message that I shouldn't worry as everything is fine and what I think matters, really doesn't.

Hope any of this make sense and interested to have opinion.

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Martin,

One of the lessons that you will learn from Tom's My Big TOE is that this is not really a physical and objective reality. Everything experienced here is subjectively interpreted by the individual. It is a simulation but that does not mean that we are to treat it as a fantasy world either. We are still supposed to treat it as real as it is the only reality that we have. Just remember the subjectivity of the experience and that the important thing is how we interact appropriately. As Tom says, learn to live gracefully with uncertainty. This reality is generated based upon developing probabilities. This is all part of Consciousness Space as the source of its generation. The Intents of those participating can modify the future, towards the negatives subjectively interpreted or away from those same negatives, depending upon the summation of the Intents of the participants. The most that you can individually do is your best to interact appropriately and with the best intent you can muster towards others at all levels of consciousness. Your 'vote' will be counted.

Tom's research and explorations and the resulting books are a part of an intended paradigm shift back towards the prior paradigm based on ancient concepts of Consciousness as the source of everything with the Buddha and ancient Indian metaphysicians and away from the modern scientific paradigm of physicality and causality. The origination and planning of this project are from within the Consciousness System at levels and within realities that manage this one. This time that paradigm is expressed in terms that are more understandable to science as opposed to mysticism. There is extensive evidence that this paradigm is already showing up in more cutting edge current research in science and mathematics in a broad range of fields. It is being recognized by working scientists that this is likely a Virtual Reality rather than a physical reality and that Consciousness has a great deal to do with the nature of that reality as it is expressed. How all aspects of the plan play out remains to be seen. Remember, learn to live gracefully with uncertainty. How we can all best contribute is in our interactions with others being the best that we can manage.

This is all generalizations but it is the best answer I can give you as opposed to trying to answer specific questions you have raised.

Ted

Hey Martin.

I was a huge Alex Jones junkie back in the day but sometimes he crossed the line with his hyperactivity and paranoia so I starting to view less and less of his shows. However I still like him and think he's entertaining.

I think folks like him are useful because they offer the absolute worst case scenario which balances out the "everything is OK" lie constantly perpetuated by the mainstream media.

I've also found some great health related products thanks to the folks on his forum as well as those that advertise on his site so that's another plus.

The point is to take what's useful to you and ignore the rest.

They both attract and creates fear.

And then there are the delusions. For example, a short time after the massacre in Norway, Alex Jones stated (and still does) that it was a false flag terror by the US/NATO/globalist. You might call it brainwashing, kind of ironic right?

Don't share in their delusions and dwell in their fear, that's it.

Thanks for the replies guys.

I feel something bigger than the picture we experience being played out and after an experience I encountered got the message that what ever is happening has no real importance and my inner strength kinda backs this up.

The conspiracy side I am glad I came out of and was a journey I felt I needed which bought me into more other stages, saying that I do every now and then get that little dog called conspiracy grab me on my ankle from time to time, maybe its my own cynical suspicious nature manifesting, who knows :)

Ted, I am kinda glad you didn't answer my questions specifically and your post although it took me a few times to get my head around it did make sense and more will be revealed the more I read.

Thanks

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Martin,



I have also investigated all of the conspiracy theories. And there may be some truth mixed in with the hype. But my problem started when I began to feel anger at being manipulated by people in power, and when I tried to spread information and awareness I began to wonder if I was (unintentionally) spreading fear instead. I decided that I do not want to spread fear, I want to spread love and compassion. Existing in a state of fear is a very painful existence (suffering), and while the state of love and compassion may come with some sadness, it is not the same tortured type of suffering (such as anger, hate, and fear).
We are all sending out "ripples" and "waves" into the environment. The problem is that whatever we "send out", we are also experiencing in our consciousness. Our thoughts are like seeds that we plant in order to harvest later. Think about what kind of seeds you really want to plant. So I decided that my job may not be to change the world, but to change myself (and my attitudes). Once my attitudes began to change, the whole world began to look very different.
The struggle is within you not outside. The struggle is between LOVE & FEAR. You may find yourself surrounded by fear-mongers, and feel tempted (to choose) to join in the fear (which then turns into righteous indignation, anger and hate), or you can choose to have love and compassion for these (sick and suffering) individuals.

It is through crisis and conflict that we discover who (and what) we truly are, the true quality of our consciousness, and our true INTENT
It is not the conflict that matters so much as how we RESPOND to the conflict

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peace
patrick

I just see Fear being used to manipulate, and reject. Not all manipulation is bad, but when Fear is used to get someone to buy in that is.
Love
Bette

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Consciousness.

Thx.

PG that is my usual outlook and something I worked out when delving deeply into that subject and I resonate with your reply.

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Hi Martin.

In terms of conspiracy theories I have followed Michael Tsarion's work. I think highly of him because for me it appears to be a balanced person. He talks about many subjects but in particular I like his version of divine feminine and the nature of being instead of doing. I think if you check him out you will be pleasantly surprised by the huge free information on his site -> http://www.michaeltsarion.com/

Have looked at Michael Tsarion on my travels when looking into the Atlantians, will have a look into the divine feminine as well, last topic I found myself looking at was John Lash & Niel Kramers work on Sophianic Gaia Mythos.

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this subject reminds me of the plot of the film Conspiracy Theory

there is a certain flavour of mental pathology, which I suppose I equally suffer from, that finds comfort in parking the brain in this sort of subject matter

and it is just this type of brain that is curious enough, open enough, to stumble on MBTOE, but unlike the other content...this actually may be the ultimate conspiracy theory.

sort of a dog catches the car scenario, like in the film.

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Perhaps in the 1rst and 5th sense of the word "conspiracy."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conspiracy

con·spir·a·cy
   /kənˈspɪrəsi/ Show Spelled[kuhn-spir-uh-see] Show IPA
noun, plural -cies.
1.
the act of conspiring.
2.
an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
3.
a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.
4.
Law . an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.
5.
any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.

Love
Bette

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Consciousness.

1.
the act of conspiring.
2.
an surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more senior IUOCs (big cheeses).
3.
a combination of NPMR management entities for a secret purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow entropy!
4.
an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act. X
5.
any concurrence in action (simulation construction?); combination in bringing about a given result (entropy reduction).

its nice to find out that there is indeed a conspiracy, but it is a benevolent one!

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See Randy? Your own interpretation.
Love
Bette

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Consciousness.

Randy,

You are just poking Bette with a stick for amusement. By that contortion of the definition of conspiracy, two persons working in the same building could not meet and agree to carpool to work rather than drive two cars in every day without it being a conspiracy.

You are right in the sense that what resulted in MBT was a conspiracy in the sense that an announcement was not made before hand. But this, NPMR and PMR are not run as democracies in any sense. They are pure and unadulterated dictatorships. Management is appointed, not elected. It is however a benign dictatorship but never the less has the power to terminate, for adequate cause, an IUOC who evidences no potential for regeneration and reversal of very bad choices of interactions. But that power is not exercised except for very good reason. Nor does it mean the same as death but rather as the wiping of the slate and the conversion of the 'bad guy' into a new entity that will start up the ladder of development again. Nothing wasted. We are not talking about a government of men and equals but of truly and vastly superior beings.

Ted