I apparently have some presuppositions I need to clear out. Please bear with me while I try to identify the culprit.
One cannot use an NPMR consciousness for the reasons already stated...
Some aspect of this VR which has never been observed before exists only in the probability structures within TBC
I agree with this point which is implied in what I'm asking.
So you can't get a clear view
I disagree with this point since remote viewers have shown they can get clear views of the target. Robert Monroe got clear views in his experiences. Not all views were clear, but some were. Perhaps this is the culprit. I'm assuming remote viewers are using their NPMRC to get the things they view. Is this a valid assumption?
Someone 'visiting' cross VRs is perceiving based upon their 'home' VR rules. ...and probably not be able to trigger an observation in effect
I agree with this and it is implied in my question.
You do not go places. You connect mentally to other IUOCs and exchange data. This data must be interpreted.
I don't know about this one. It sure seems one's NPMR consciousness is going someplace in PMR. I had an OBE so realistic I didn't know it until someone told me I didn't do what I thought I did. In Robert Monroe's books he also describes situations where he thought he was in PMR because it was so realistic and only after his arm went through the wall did he realize otherwise. There are many descriptions of OBE people going places and seeing things in PMR that are later corroborated.
I realize there is no "place" to go in the VR sense, but my questions have all been relating to PMR as we experience it and as it CAN be experienced by an out-of-body experiencer.
In NPMR, there are no bodies and no eyesight and so forth.
I agree with that, but remote viewers and out-of-body experiencers are able to acquire accurate
PMR 'visual' data somehow. The question I have about this, though, is are they detecting PMR as rendered by the PMR rendering engine or are they detecting a 'clone' of PMR in NPMR where the clone is rendered by a separate NPMR rendering engine? This could be the culprit. I'm assuming that remote viewers/out-of-body viewers are perceiving our PMR from their NPMR state. Are they? Is this the culprit?
You are not going to force an instantiation by this kind of observation.
Exactly! And that's implied in my question.
We interpret what we can do there in NPMR according to our PMR rule set and thus 'see' things that cannot really exist.
I agree, just as we now in PMR 'see' things that don't really exist, it's all virtual. But, experientially, I see in PMR. Experientially, remote viewers 'see' this PMR from NPMR. And this leads back to my original question, are they seeing only what's already been seen?
Ok, now where's the culprit?