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 Post subject: Love
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:23 am 
Isn't it strange that in in this forum there is no section called Love?

Isn't it strange that when you use the search function and you write the word Love it says: The following words in your search query were ignored because they are too common words: love.

Oh and this thread is placed in the ego and fear section, Odd ain't it? Random maybe, huh?

So i decided to start a topic called Love because i remembered an event from my puberty years.

I used to have a friend who was into the love deal. He as an Individuated unit of consciousness (I hate that acronym, it sounds like a factory line product of a consciousness power plant) honestly tried to move towards it. I remember him proposing an author called Leo Buscaglia(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Buscaglia). He even lend me a book of his and when i read it my eyes would often fill with tears. I realize that this forum revolves around the idea of becoming love but that comes off as very much theoretical. This man made me realize that it's different to talk about love and to practice love in your life.

I am in the process of reading his books again, because books do that to humans, they provide the stimuli to change us fundamentally. How will i absorb his message is up to my current growth and that is also a good indicator of how productively or not i have been spending my life here on the blue planet.

I will post some of his lectures in youtube video form and you better all watch it. I guarantee a lot of pleasant and unpleasant shocks that will shake the core of your being towards a vibration that will tend to unmask whatever artificial story you told yourself about how loving you are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opGlp1pE59s (7 Parts. Don't stop there, he has many other videos and books, one of them simply called "Love").

Whatever remarks you have please let them be after you have watched the video, otherwise there is no use posting to this thread in my opinion.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:49 am 
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Hi High,
I only saw 6 parts but they were good. What a great speaker that makes time fly and I loved it. I think you chose this forum wisely as Love and Fear are opposite and what Leo is talking about is that outward arrow or vector of Intent (big "I") which in Tom's model is what defines Love pretty much. Fear being opposite of that then would be defining an inward arrow or vector of Intent. The only thing I did not hear him say that I wish I would have so that I could feel he knows it is that Fear is the opposite of Love rather than Hate being the opposite or counterpoint of love. Big L Love is all about other but a larger concept than any of the different kinds of love the Greeks defined or how most people think of it these days. It can be seen as a scale like a number line and this scale is a measure of the current level of Quality of Consciousness a bit of Consciousness has or even the entire Larger Consciousness System with the more Evolved the bit is the more towards Love and the further from Fear their bit would sit on this metaphorical scale number line tool.

Thank you for the challenge.
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Good stuff. I like the passion.

Love is the basis of all things MBT... of all things for that matter.

Anything that reminds us of the fact that we are here to learn and grow toward love is a good thing.

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HE,

There have been extensive discussions of love here on the BB. Try this link. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4051&p=14350&hilit=love+agape+eros#p14350

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"Love" as I understand it, on earth, is a sensation created when the complementary goal set, "To Love <=> To Be Loved" is put into play. When it is voluntary it is fun. When is it compulsive it degrades into the negative legs of that goal set. Also, it gets grossly crossed over with the other complementary goal set, "To Sex <=> To Be Sexed". In this universe, this "loosh" is very scarce and beautiful, thus considered valuable.

I have been testing out something in my meditations, and if you decide to test it out too, please tell me what you are coming across. Here is what I am doing, after clearing my mind of the day's negativities, I'm in a good space, temporarily released from my mind; then I repeat to myself silently "To Love -- To be Loved". I just punch that in, keeping my eyes open and in the Now while allowing whatever comes up to come up. A lot comes up for me and is worth writing in my journal. I find it has been life-changing, profound, yet so simple to perform.

Because it is so simple, I don't feel that I am greatly imposing on you to give it a whirl and let me know what comes up for yourself.

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bette wrote:
Hi High,
I only saw 6 parts but they were good. What a great speaker that makes time fly and I loved it. I think you chose this forum wisely as Love and Fear are opposite and what Leo is talking about is that outward arrow or vector of Intent (big "I") which in Tom's model is what defines Love pretty much. Fear being opposite of that then would be defining an inward arrow or vector of Intent. The only thing I did not hear him say that I wish I would have so that I could feel he knows it is that Fear is the opposite of Love rather than Hate being the opposite or counterpoint of love. Big L Love is all about other but a larger concept than any of the different kinds of love the Greeks defined or how most people think of it these days. It can be seen as a scale like a number line and this scale is a measure of the current level of Quality of Consciousness a bit of Consciousness has or even the entire Larger Consciousness System with the more Evolved the bit is the more towards Love and the further from Fear their bit would sit on this metaphorical scale number line tool.

Thank you for the challenge.
Love
Bette


Yes, I can subjectively relate to that, just different words used: I've seen/been a higher aspect of me looking down at this smaller aspect of me (looks like a little spark of light). It's all in a day's work :-)

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How do you all feel about the statement, "Love is unconditional"? Back in my Bible reading days I recall there is a rather all encompassing definition of love written by, if memory serves me, a man named Paul. On the Earth that would require a lot of persistence on bumpy roads.

For example, a friend of mine gave me a shamanistic session for my departed mother. Our relationship was rocky strewn with victim/victimizer types of strategies poised against each other -- non-complementary. However, she, in her disembodied state (she followed my Tibetan Book of the Dead advice and did not go towards the light), after being initially annoyed being interrupted from her astral disco orgy (HA, my mom was such a virgin, go figure), I listened to her tell me the bitterness and woes of her earthly life (things only I knew), and she calmed down and became more herself.

She cried a bit and then she told me that I was the only person who ever loved her. This shocked me at first, but then, analytically, I realized this was true. She decided at the end of our talk that her current group was not where she wanted to be, and my Shaman helped her join up with another group of more sober, and spiritual guides. She had no interest whatsoever is getting back into human form, and I do not blame her at all. If she had gone towards the light that is exactly where she would have ended up, repackaged, and ready to play -- ad reductio.

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I think Leo is pretty awesome. I got a lot out of the youtube. Thanks for posting, H.E.

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