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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:30 am 
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If it wasn't for hashish I'd never had heard about My Big TOE or ever felt the love that surrounds me. I'd be completely blind to reality. I would however had been a lot richer and a lot more successful.

Hashish have caused me a lot of pain over the years, but wasn't it for this pain I wouldn't have grown as much as I've done..


I love your honesty friend.


In the video link posted above, Tom discusses (and in my interpretation validates) the type of use you are referring to:
http://youtu.be/lRar8IOwic8?t=1h23m2s


I stand corrected. Tom sums it up perfectly in that youtube piece. Thank you.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:43 am 
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realitycorrodes,
Thanks for sharing the experience,very interesting about the frequencies.My experiences from 'back in the day' also seemed to amplify my state of mind.Back then,I had no interest in anything spiritual though,I would have derided that term.It was all about fun with my friends only.Unfortunately,now that I do have spiritual growth aspirations,I cannot use aides such as hashish even if I wanted to due to the current fascist-corporate control over our society.(drug testing,private prisons,drug 'war',etc.)

OBE and Lucid Dream states serve the purpose for me.You can actually request experiences and states of being ,like 'becoming love' for instance,to the intelligence behind the scenes in these states.This is something maybe you and lazy vulpes may want to explore too if you haven't already.

Have you all read Graham Handcock's book 'Supernatural' ? I totally agree with his POV on this topic,here is a video of him talking about it:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmDYoQfn5c0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3CvpA0 ... re=related


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I know exactly what you mean. When I was younger 20 yrs old I used to do lsd and mary jane and got alot of insight into human psychology and philosophy as that is where my interests lay at that time. However, after 20 years of interest in patanjali yoga and actually practicing pranayam and breath control and eight visits to india - and being under cover in practically every spiritual cult that came my way - I developed a "data base" of spirituality that completely changed my experience of the use of the Mary Jane (hashish).

In that previous experience I shared, where I went through walls of frequencies - I was in india. I was seated with 300,000 people who were all meditating (point focused) on a guru (who IMHO is beside the point - what with hypnosis and guru deception) - all that matters is to get people to focus. So my set and setting was the greatest spiritual show on planet earth. Before I actually closed my eyes to meditate I tried to keep my eyes open to perceive the external world - often the external world experience is very different to the internal experience. I wanted to perceive the guru while on the hashish to see if I could gain any insight into the true nature of his being. The guru does this starring thing - were he scans everyone. Anyway it took forever for him to eventually get round to scanning me at which point I left my body (obe) and traveled 50 yards from were I was sitting to being face to face with the guru (my physical body was still sitting open eyed 50 yards away fully conscious) - I could breath on the guru in this obe. I then got shown that he was nothing but a puppet for anyone's belief system. After that I clossed my eyes and got sucked deep within my own consciousness while still aware.

In regard to your asking for help. Yes I am aware of that. I have had so called spiritual beings sitting on the side of my bed and lean over and peer into my eyes and ask me if I wanted help getting out of my body - I was of course practising an out of body technique at the time. I was fully aware of my body on the bed and seemed to be seeing through my forehead with my eyes closed at the spiritual person sitting on my bed. I telepathicly said yes and was instantly out of my body. In fact I am almost ashamed to say, that I feel that I always have had help from something seemingly separate from me when it comes to having some kind of inner experience. Anyway it is probably one's higher self, in its many different forms.

Humility is a beautiful thing. I am also with Tom when he says these experiences (inner) are not necessary. I have met many with inner experience, but they have no humility or compassion. As I realise (for me at least) all that really matters is that I live in harmony with everything around me (profound compassion) i.e. I thrive when I help others to thrive. I would rather have that feeling of love that accompanies real humility than any inner experience in the astral. Of course ecstatic love from deep meditation beyond the astral would be quite appealing also ( I have the feeling this is a little harder than plain OBE's). I have had friends who could access this love with complete control in meditation, but they at the time could meditate for 8 hours straight - however, they cannot do it anymore - there are many things that happen in this experience - the reasons and causes behind them we don't always know.

It is very disappointing that the Powers that be have decided to remove the "power plants" from our free will choice to use them. Those plants could wake people up from their slavery. However, they do demand enourmous respect - and alot of them are very hard to control - and as such I would not personally use them these days - it's so much easier to turn one's awareness within and disattach from everything we have ever been taught to believe in.

I am aware of Graham Hancock and have listened extensively to alot of his material - I too like his angle on the power plants and his ayuahuasca experience.


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Lazy Vulpes wrote:
I'm not a man of many words, so I'll make it a short and simple question..

Is there any complications to consider when using hashish and "out of body" experiences purely as a way to entertain myself?

Edit: For those who don't know, hashish is concentrated cannabis.


This will be my first response in this forum.
Having 7 years of heavy smoking and other drugs as well behind me, I would strongly say that yes there are complications, but it depends on how you are as a person. What I mean with "how you are as a person" is, how is your relation to your family, your friends, would you care if their minds are set to drugs-are-bad mode? Would you care if they become worried about you being home amusing yourself with hashish and visiting other galaxies, instead of maybe socializing with them?
Smoking hashish changes your brainwaves and activity. If you smoke daily, your behaviour WILL change.

When I first encountered Bob Monroe on Youtube, I was astonished. To travel outside my body was a great desire.
I read his books, while stoned as I always was, and found them absolutely mind-blowing.
It always seemed as his stories and information reminded me of something, I could resonate with the data, even though the "memories" where very faint.

I quickly found out that smoking cannabis would in fact help me reach these desired states, probably because of a lot of reasons.
The muscles in my body became much more relaxed, also it seemed to help my brain to have a larger activity. I could "think" more clearly, removing the noise that the left side of the hemisphere creates. All the worries, and so forth.
This of course is necessary to reach deep meditative states.

But lets say that you have been amusing yourself for a year with this, smoking cannabis and reaching OBE states. Lets say that because of some reason, like you promised your mother to quit smoking, or your local drug dealer moved away from town, or simply that you desired to reach these states without the aid of cannabis or hashish; What does your logical mind tell you? Will it be easy to get relaxed, to have the same brain activity that you are so used to while going on an OBE? I say no, it is not, and I speak of experience.

Also, while in a deep meditative state under the influence of cannabis, blocks something. It´s like the data you receive is not making any sence. It is kind of like when taking psychoactive drugs, BOOM you get blasted out in the cosmos, you come back, your logical mind tries to make some form of sence of the large amount of data, but it simply can't. Some parts you remember though.
After 7 years of smoking almost every single day, I say that the amount of data I have received by the aid of cannabis and hashish is extremely large. So large that my logical mind has had many intense weeks or month trying to interpret it all.
But the downside is almost not bearable. I have lost many friends because of the socializing I have missed, my family lost trust in me because of their view of how a person should be in this society. You really don't know how important it is having people that trust you untill it is gone.
Maybe your surroundings aren't as affected by society and the rules and laws within it, and maybe you don't care.

What I'm trying to say is that please, be careful. Using or abusing any drug always has complications.
I am not trying to promote drug use to anyone, but if you really desire OBE's while under influence of drugs, I would rather eat shrooms.

I would also want to include in all this that being spiritual or talking about consciousness with people and so on isn't always joyful and graceful. It can turn pretty uggly. In this society and especially where I live, this is all considered weird and strange. My mum for sure wouldn't appreciate me talking to her about how the greater reality works. It doesn't fit with society's way of thinking. You all know what I mean. And if you are known by some to be a drug user, your part in trying to help humanity evolve can make your surroundings ridicule you instead. On the other hand being ridiculed greatly also makes you greatly strong, over time.

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