I've been playing with some basic manifestation/creation stuff to increase probabilities of "external" things coming into reality. It definitely works much better now that I understand the foundations underlying it from a physics standpoint as explained by quantum physicists and guys like Tom, with all the experimental evidence behind it too.

However in certain situations, I manifest things coming to me regularly i.e. women attracted to me, that I"m attracted to, but I still often freeze up emotionally, so it sort of "freezes" the situation so to speak, because I get so emotionally locked.

As an example, this is one particular issue I've been working on for years, and have not yet been able to clear it. Of course it's personal to me, and I know what to do and say, it's a matter of clearing or overcoming the emotional block.

When I sit and visualize attractive women around me in my room at home, I feel confident and like I can do it. When I am out at a bar (testing out the probablity in the field so to speak), and those women are showing up right there, making eye contact, waiting for me to talk to them, they are open to it, etc, the block and fear sets in and total fear sets in. Even though for many others it is quite easy.

The only viable solution currently (and believe me I've tried everything) is to feel that fear and do it anyway - which is basic exposure therapy, doing it until the fear is conditioned out of myself. But that isn't very Big TOE to me, seems like the more difficult and slow route to go. Wouldn't it be more BIG Toe to visualize the experience with me being confident regardless of the outcome, and then it would happen much more easily? I've tried these kinds of visualizations before, but they didn't seem to work, or maybe I'm missing something and need to try them again.

To me it seems almost easier to call something more "external" into the environment, but when it comes to changing the self or thoughts and emotions, it is much more difficult. Or maybe my belief that it is difficult to change these deeper emotional fears is getting in the way. Though there is much evidence around the amygdala and fear that seems to make these types of fears harder to overcome than others.

Thoughts/suggestions on how to solve these type of emotional issues given the Big TOE model?

Cheers!

There is a great deal of difference between manifesting a 'thing' and causing an IUOC to perform to order. In a VR, 'things' appearing in the data stream that creates the VR experience are based upon probability which is subject to a degree of manipulation. A conscious being is not subject to manipulation based upon manipulating probability. Also remember that interactions based upon optimized free will are the desirable form of interaction. Not interactions based upon the manipulation of the free will of others.

Ted

ddhamilt-

I think the best way to deal with fear is through experience and meditation. The best meditation, in my opinion, for overcoming fear is not really a meditation. It is just using your intent like you use it to influence externals. Not through visualization but through "brute force". Simply feel yourself filling up with energy and that energy eliminating the fear or just focus on the sense of fear or use your intent to influence your capacity to fear in the abstract. Meaning the fear doesn't actually have to be felt to be dealt with. You can even hold an intent to have fear reduced in a particular future situation, like the situation you describe. I don't think influencing internals or externals is really about visualization primarily, I think it is about the force or energy behind the intent. In my experience changing internals like fear is much easier than influencing externals. I know I've done the former but I'm not sure I've done the latter, I believe I have but I can't be sure. Maybe you have a belief blocking internal changes and I have a belief blocking external influencing.

@Ted - thanks for your response! Yes, I know what you mean, I'm not talking about manipulating other beings per say, but really from a space of co-creation/attraction/manifestation - where my intent is lining up with theirs and thus we "appear" in each other's shared reality.

But I wasn't quite clear on how your response addressed my question - which is about addressing our own internal emotional blocks/fears. Are you saying by trying to influence my own emotions/fears by dissipating them with intent, that I am trying to "manipulate" myself and thus this goes against creating less entropy/fear? Since I am the consciousness that manifests though my body/emotions etc, I would think it would be easy to do, since another consciousness is not behind my body (at least I hope not!)

@Advaita - I will give that a shot for sure. However can you clarify what you mean by "brute force". To me, it rings of resistance and pushing, instead of effortless will, which is along the lines of what I believe Tom talks about with using intention or energy, especially if we are talking "quantum" level. Can you give an example of how you eliminating a strong emotional fear using the process you are talking about?

Also by externals I do mean things like manifesting parking spaces, which Tom does talk about, and say that people have reported that it increases the probability to where about 80% of the time they are getting the parking space they desire, as a simple example.

Tom's TOE says basically that you must "deal" with the fear (however you choose) before your intents can be granted. In practice, you block because you believe rejection and a bruised ego is worse than passing the opportunity entirely.

The first thing to realise is, it would not be worse if you didn't pin your ego on the results of these interactions.

One problem is likely that, when you sit and "visualize" you're conditioning your ego and self confidence to depend on the admiration of these women, and you're afraid to break that fantasy.

"To be free, you must first lose everything." Whatever. I'm rambling.

You use the words "clearing" and "emotional blocks". Why?

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Johan

That's what I'm asking...
1) To heal the fear is to visualize it out with "intent".

2) To feel the fear and do it anway.

3) To pass the opportunity entirely - not sure what you meant here exactly, but if I'm right I've passed up plenty of opportunities and kind of tired of that.

So Tom's TOE doesn't bring a "shortcut" per say by using intent to heal the fear, just like he talks about manifesting a parking space, or people healing themselves in a hospital. I don't see why it is any different.



True enough. So using my intent to heal my ego in these types of interactions (or any type of phobia) would seem to be the way to go, give more ego = more fear/entropy and less ego = more order/love



Actually I seem to already have admiration from them, and they from me. :) It is my attachment to the admiration before talking to them and "screwing it up" and thus losing the admiration and hurting my ego. Yes, I see.



Because at first we see each other and are attracted and then I emotionally lock up, freeze up. Trying to consciously tell myself to ignore that fear has been very difficult for me to do. So thus I'd love to be able to clear the emotional block as I've termed it. Perhaps it's an ego block, more appropriately stated.

So it would seem that using my intent as it were for "ego healing" rather than emotional healing, block clearing, fear clearing, etc would be a good way to go.

Yes, always, as long as you know what your intention is. Don't just do things you fear to do.


You won't find a parking space if you think you "deserve" one (as a way for the universe to comfort you) or are afraid of not finding one.

It is not about wand-waving. You get what you deserve, and the universe owes you nothing.

Imagine there is a puppet master controlling everything in the world except you, but he can read your mind. The rules are to not offend this master, take heed when he rewards you with clues, and become friends with him. Other than that, you are free to set your own goals.


I thought these were terms used in scientology. I'd be interested to know more, if that's where you heard them.


I think we might say that "emotional blocks" are basically ego fears. The point with terming them "ego fears" is that it gives a better handle on how certain events affect us. "What am I afraid of? why am I afraid of ...?" Ego is somewhat a synonym for "perceived self worth", and as long as you pin this on outcomes of interactions, you will struggle.

Other posters might bring more light to this.

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Sorry for the delay in responding to this Man.

No - these terms "blocks" aren't from scientology, they just seem like natural terms for me to use. Perhaps because I've done things like EFT and BSFF, they've come into my vocabulary. It just feels like a block, or even a barrier so I used those terms.

Can you clarify what you mean that "you won't get a parking space by thinking to deserve it". Are you meaning to not come from a place of ego? Instead to say more objectively "the parking space I need is coming my way" - from a neutral space, knowing that we greatly increase the probability of getting that parking space, because there is evidence there to show us that it works. And it does.

For instance the other night I was out with my friends, and they were leaving. So I decided to finish my beer and they left. As I stood there I said "watch this, a girl that I'm attracted to, and that is attracted to me is going to show up". 5 minutes later a group of 5 or so really attractive girls show up and I'm making eye contact with many of them, then two of them get next to me, bump into me, looking over waiting for me to say something. Then one of them, the one who bumped into me, got right in front of me looking at me. Boom, it happened so quickly. But then I froze up like I often have in the past, feel immobile, I'm looking at her, I think she's really cute, but my face is frozen, my voice won't speak. I know what to do, what to say, but the fear is so great when it comes to the moment to "say hi" - that it feels as if I am stuck and locked up. It's all quite irrational fear based, and old pattern within. So I bring the situation right to me often now (probably 80% of the time like Tom says). but without action, can't find out what happens.

I'm co-creating it, but can't complete it, it seems. It's very akin to calling the parking space to you, it opening up, but not simply driving in. Maybe that's a great metaphor to help me (and others with similar issues) to get beyond this.

ddhamilt-

I think you're over-complicating things. Just think about your fear. Let it bubble up as fully as possible in your conscious mind. Then use your intent to get rid of it. Meaning you concentrate on the feeling. If you concentrate on a negative feeling, similar to mindfulness meditation, its sting will be reduced. If it comes back after you've done that, then the fear should be reduced. If not, plow through it in the given situation it arises in. Don't analyze the fear as it comes up. Just feel the fear in your body, notice the tension it creates but don't think about it, don't let your thinking mind carry on about it. Just feel it.

I think habits, automatic responses, pysical sqemish stuff, nervousness, urges, reactions, Ect. are built in to a system through many tinny choices over a long time. Ex when ever one is going out and will be around wemon the tiny choice to check hair/analyze face stuff...With the intent that caries values such as my looks will dictate the meaningful ness of my existence will build up, Nervs, instant fear reactions around women, (stuttery, sweaty, physical stuff) because that situation now threatens what was built up and defined as meaningful existence.

To remove takes a lot of value shifting and aware of tiny descicions and make more the other way.
SO my opionion is that the visulizations add potential for certain situations but the reactions will still be there.
Visulizating the reactions not being there might constrain the cercumstances to minmize the reactions (maybe larger system make you smash drunk) but the end out come of all the interations might not have much gained value from the visulizations.

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@Advaita - I have been playing around with this, and I will see how it goes. Your explanation on your other thread helped me clarify it even more.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6630

I will report my results back here. I'm also reading the Big TOE trilogy right now, so maybe that will help me in getting a "melt on" for my ego/fear issues.

There is a simple rule that I use to become aware of my levels of FEAR and LOVE as it relates to my quality of consciousness. It involves the feedback mechanism and requires self examination of my thoughts-feelings-response-feedback-and intentions. (mindfulness)
I simply do a quick self examination (moment by moment), If I feel good I am being LOVING, (less fear - low entropy, positive feedback ), if I feel bad I am not being LOVING (more fear - high entropy, negative feedback). The feedback mechanism works on TWO fronts, INTERNAL and EXTERNAL, so I also depend on the feedback that I recieve from others. People will generally let you know how you "made them feel".
It is a LOVE to FEAR ratio. The more FEAR present (at any given moment) the less LOVE can be present (and vice versa) its almost like a mathematical equation, similar to OHMs law,
E = I x R - that is "E" (energy measured in Volts) is equal to "I" (current measured in Amps) multiplied by "R" (resistance measured in Ohms) ...

similar to the second law of thermodynamics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law ... modynamics


...but over simplified for use involving LOVE, FEAR, ENTROPY and Quality of Consciousness.

Ohm's Law defines the relationships between (P) power, (E) voltage, (I) current, and (R) resistance. One ohm is the resistance value through which one volt will maintain a current of one ampere.

( I ) Current is what flows on a wire or conductor like water flowing down a river. Current flows from negative to positive on the surface of a conductor. Current is measured in (A) amperes or amps.

We will assign LOVE as representing the flow (as YOU are the conductor that carries the flow)

( E ) Voltage is the difference in electrical potential between two points in a circuit. It's the push or pressure behind current flow through a circuit, and is measured in (V) volts.

We will assign Entropy as the "difference in POTENTIAL"

( R ) Resistance determines how much current will flow through a component. Resistors are used to control voltage and current levels. A very high resistance allows a small amount of current to flow. A very low resistance allows a large amount of current to flow. Resistance is measured in ohms.

We will assign FEAR as resistance (restricting and limiting the "flow")

( P ) Power is the amount of current times the voltage level at a given point measured in wattage or watts.

We will assign Quality of Consciousness to power (defined as the ability to do work) in relation to LOVE, Fear, and Entropy.




All values are, of course, relative and transient (temporary - changing from moment), and this is not an exact formula. But only suggestive of the relationship of Entropy and Quality of consciousness as they relate to LOVE and FEAR.
I feel that if someone is overly fearful it is because they are simply more experienced responding with fear. It is a matter of PRACTICE (or conditioned response). Increasing our awareness about how we respond to various situations (and the correlating feelings associated with our responses) allows us to take part in CHOOSING how we respond. And experimentation with (and PRACTICE) of variations in our responses, can lead to awareness of how much power we have over our own behavior in everyday interactions.
We do have the ability to practice being LOVING, using the feedback mechanism as a guide (how do I feel) we can recognize, through practice, when we feel LOVING or FEARFUL and modify our actions/intentions.

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peace
patrick