Given that this site is devoted to the work of Tom, I could not see any reason why it would not be appropriate to try and visit him in the NPMR/expanded state or what Bob Monroe called the 'second state'. Given that there are others here who are probably much more experienced and doing similar things, I thought seeing if anyone else had a similar experience might somehow validate the visit?

Firstly I am not super-experienced or claiming to be an expert or particularly good at this, neither am I claiming that any of this is true.

About 5-6pm Saturday 19th November, Washington DC time. Tom is climbing up and down stairs in what appears to be a high constructed site with much space around it. This building is very high, maybe ten or twenty floors? Maybe he was using the elevator? He seems excited and his family is very worried, because this will be his first visit into outer space. Not that he is going for very long - maybe 12 hours or a day at the most. People are very busy ensuring that this space flight goes well.

Hi Dom,

Just my opinion, this sounds, from what you've shared, like a personal symbolic/representational dream of some sort..
(Maybe Anne Faraday's book, "The Dream Game" will be interesting)

Lots of boardie contact with Tom-ness does occur, all the time.

Tom 'the person' is much more private and unreachable though, I would expect (personally, I try not to bother people, even to the point of 'thinking too loudly'). Any mystic in the possession of at least one atom of sense, and another of experience, tends toward reclusiveness. (There are exceptions, but they are thought out ones).

Personally, my perception has been that many members of the group, as such, do interact on an irregular basis in NPMR, the whole of this being about as mosh-pitty as the interaction is on this board. There are smaller, more private groups and dyads that are more focused.

Montana

Dom,

Are you aware that Tom worked for NASA as a consultant? Perhaps you are tapping into that period. When I was finishing up my chapter on the Virtual Reality Rendering Engine and Tom wanted it posted on the board, I heard from him, so I thought, requesting that I hurry. When I contacted Tom by e-mail he was not aware of trying to contact me but did say that he came through to others occasionally.

Ted

Montana - Thanks for your feedback. It could be a metaphor? I am not sure how it is possible to bother anyone in the second state if the intention is fine. We are also 'one' anyway and consciousness is not as easily differentiated, as people are not trying to survive. If the Tom down here is busy, he won't notice anyway and another aspect of him will correspond - Or maybe some dude with a beard will bubble out of the larger system and look like him so that I can ask questions, while remaining open minded and sceptical ☺ - Not that I will notice the difference anyway?

Ted - Thanks also.
I knew that Tom worked for NASA a while back, so there could be some front-loading going on? Thanks for sharing your experience either way. I am not sure why I set to see him explicitly? Maybe it was because I had just been listening to the forum recordings that were pretty good and had me thinking for a while.

Cheers,
Dom

Interesting dream Dom.

Many people that read MBT and sees the videos will most likely also have dreams that use Tom as a character, or rather metaphor. Some people that read MBT and internalize it, often report a period of more intensive or apparent dreaming, this is just a side-effect of one opening up for more opportunities of growth and interactions from different angles. No doubt the LCS will use Tom as a good metaphor for any potential lesson, and even if not, people will own their own use Tom as a metaphor because he is able to represent: Change, growth, truth.

Yes, the Tom we know 'here' is pretty much unreachable, but as Dom says: "another aspect of him will correspond - Or maybe some dude with a beard will bubble out of the larger system and look like him so that I can ask questions, while remaining open minded and sceptical" is accurate in my current understanding. Tom has commented before that he gets emails where people assume they have spoken with him, the "local awareness", but he has to 'disappoint' them with and answer of something like "nope, not me". I will still recommend people to experiment themselves, even visiting Tom. There are always things to learn in NPMR without being successful in what one had in mind originally :)

I have had two experiences that Tom was a part of. I won't say that it was Tom, but rather using him as a symbol for a teacher. The first one was one of the most vivid OBE's I ever had, in a snowy field surrounded by forest and mountains. In the experience it was Tom, a handful of people, and I. He was explaining how things worked "out here" and that he had rendered this area for us to practice in.

Another one was very vague, but I was part of a class that was in a HUGE pure shiny marble temple, we where all wearing robes and sat on the floor, Tom stood in front and lectured to us. It was pretty interesting none the less.

As I stated, I believe that it may have just been using him as a form for some sort of instructor. Seeing as he has taught me much.

I had one where i was beeing shown how to function in a particular server. I interperted it as Tom but i most likely skewed the data that way for familairty.

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Yep, I've had quite a few dreams that Tom was in. I figure the same thing - he was a stand in for a message or encouragement.

Same here. In each case it was with a small group and Tom was answering various questions about life, etc.

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Does there exist such a thing as privacy in Non Physical Matter Reality?

Yes.

No one can decode the direct experience of your modeling system unless they have mastered the model(s) that you are using, or ones sufficinetly like them.

If I got lost in NPMR, accidentally walked into an elevator and got bumped up several levels and stumbled out and come across Einstein, I could try to read his mind until my non-physical eyes crossed, but it I can't manage his equations, I won't have a clue.

It is similar with 'emotional' or feeling constructions: A person can somewhat easily pick up vibes that s/he is familiar with, but radically different vibes just won't register, or register only dimly, more as subtle nuance.

Montana

You also have the option, just as here in PMR, to interact or not interact with whomever you please, as I understand it. That is the privacy that matters most, to me. I should say that that is just so long as you are not bringing yourself to the negative attention of management by your behavior.

Ted