dieguti wrote:
Pardon me all. I didn't notice I was being so unclear.
I will try to summarize:
- I think that experience the reality is positive for the people, 99%.
- Access that reality isn't easy (I've meditated and tried hemi sync for months without success)
- ANY information can be obtained from the database from a person with the capability to do it.
- I propose that the designed person generate (or copy from the database) a system, I suppose it would be based in sound, to facilitate the access to states of the kind of focus 10 or focus 12 in any newbie.
- I want to use that system. I want access those states by myself.
And respect to Montana I disagree; if someone will want use that system I think he will be prepared to live the experience. I'm not going to push anyone, only offer it.
And finally I don't want to rest value to meditation, but I don't think it would be the best tool to achieve certain altered states. I have family that have meditated for years and never accessed any of these nonphysical realities.
But again, I like meditation and I practice almost daily.
I'm a computer engineer and I have the concept based in the experience of my job that half of the effort (if not more) can be saved if one choose the right tool for the task.
Thanks for your time.
Sure. Skor's advice to try the hemisynch tapes is probably just the right thing. There are also lots of places on the net where you can download freeware or inexpensive try-it-out ware for various hemisynch systems. These may actually be of some use that the Monroe tapes can't, in as much as with Monroe, what you get is what you get; whereas the throw-together your own allows you to customize. I had marginal success with the Monroe tapes in the beginning until I tried them on a cheap import player that ran maybe 5% to fast... in effect raising all the tones and the BFO entrainment ... what a difference, and wierd experiences were popping up all over the place. ... so the lesson there is that TMI's stuff is ballparked at some bell-curve center and if you're not at the center, the tapes "don't fit".... it stands to reason that some people need'm a little faster, others a little slower.
If you think about it, die, your argument could as well be applied to a hit of acid: Instant access to the land of visions, spirits, OBE OME, and pur Gah! For many years it was legal, and while it opened, rather forcibly, a lot of minds, it had some major drawbacks, this instant access to all to surfing the cosmos. Starting new religions.... getting utterly lost in the Great Gah and coming back and instantly embracing any old religion or cult (there was a period where it seemed that just everyone was having too big a trip, coming down utterly space-blown, 'finding god' with some christian crowd, and moving to California. It was like, almost everyday, you'd see someone you knew, and it was "I found God!", "Too much acid?" "How did you know...?! Anyway, I'm moving to California"), evolving into a weird being and forgetting to take into consideration that not everyone else is with you on this evolutionary escapade, or even understands it, or even wants to, etc etc.. "Instant 12" is not as serious of a go as that, of course, and yet I can see how it has similar risks. ... it's like going to NYC for the first time.... can be a total gas but you don't want to land in the wrong neighborhood, for sure ... you really want to have an escort, or at the very least, a good idea of what's what!
In a way, you and I have similar complaints: I am always and forever complaining about trying to evolve on this substandard planet, made of dirt, with too much gravity, not enough atmosphere, and seasons of a length that make even people with short attention spans dizzy. And what's with the whole "have to murder other living things to survive" bit...? I mean, c'mon!
.........On the surface they sound different, but at bottom they are the same. "I want what I want right now, gah-dammit! and who the hell is running this operation anyways...? Why don't they bring in some consultants ???" etc etc...
I'm a computer engineer and I have the concept based in the experience of my job that half of the effort (if not more) can be saved if one choose the right tool for the task. .... that certainly sounds valid and reasonable. <shrugs shoulders/> Listening to the last interview there posted with Tom, the questioner mentions using a 150 megaheartz wave to carry a modulation in the eight-hertz range (presumably further modulated) to power blast people into altered states of consciousness. (An intriguing technology, it almost certainly will be used for bad or exploitative ends, I'm afraid). So that might be an avenue you could explore (you could easily set up such a thing with circuitry composed on one of those radio-shack electronics kits for learning basic electronics, I'm sure). Another thing you might try is to go over to the Monroe website (google up "The Monroe Institute") and just listen to "The explorer tapes". They are interesting in themselves, but I have a hard time listening to them without the visceral feeling that at any moment an invisible door that I didn't know was there is about to blow open and suck me through it, like a jet's door blown open in the night, directly into the land of Gah!~ I know your supposed to have the thing over a stereo channel, but it has this effect on me never the less. Maybe it will for you too.
A couple of other leads: See the book Mind Games by Masters & Houston and read it from a systems analyst's perspective.... what, modeling from that body of knowledge, is happening there? You might find the theoretical framework offered in Dr. Charles Tart's books helpful, as well. Just keep plugging away and you'll get to the next place that is for you. Who knows, maybe some spirit guide will come floating by one night and take you for a spin. :-)
Happy trails!~
-Montana