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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:41 pm 
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I almost lost hope, but after many reality checks and a critical mind I finally had my lucid dream - again (was a long while ago that I can remember). And It was the same as always - I realize that I am in fact dreaming and clarity begins - its like the quality of the dream changes instantly. I am having a fun time - floatin and flying around but get an extreme pain in my jaw for some reason (?). I usually get headache in my lucid dreams but not this time. I actually have a lucid dream without feeling headche which basically has not happen. The problem with may jaw, hehe, seem to come and go. Whatever I think, its not so painful I cant handle it, just strange.

I realize I cant loose lucidity now because Im really deep into hit. I stop playing around because I remember there something i want - I want to go to NPMR (whatever that is, however I can get there, how to know the signs.. I dont know). I close my eyes in this lucidity (if I can say that I have eyes (?)). I see some hallucination in my own hallucination. Very strange.. Like pictures coming to me and I cant really make anything of it.

After awhile Im at work, and almost lost lucidity, but no - I come back! I start talking with my colleges. I have read on this forum about people asking questions like "Am I dreaming".. "Are you sentient beings". I just wanted to know what the answer to me would be. Im fully aware they are my own creatings (at least I think so, hehe). On the question "Am I dreaming" the answer is no, no, no. They will not say Im dreaming. Are you sentient beings I ask? This is stranger. They refuse to answer, refuse so say anything. I ask again. No answer. Boom! I wake up.

What can I make of this? Any input?


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Just make a note of it.... literally.
Keeping a dream journal is a great idea for several reasons.
One is that the doing of it at all seems to strengthen our ability to both remember and act in our dreams.
A second is that it helps the physical memory of dreams solidify before they evaporate like a morning fog.
A third is that, after a while we can look back through that journal and patterns that we would not have otherwise seen leap up at us as obvious. This is also true when 'new' events or process are just starting to emerge.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:18 am 
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Shango wrote:
They refuse to answer, refuse so say anything. I ask again. No answer.


That's what people usually do in my lucid dreams. At first when I just get lucid, I say to them: "Hey, you are in my dream. Do you know that?" No answer. Then for an experiment I say: "Ok, if any of you are real persons, please, give me a note, my e-mail is: " and I say my e-mail ... but sometimes I mess it up :D

Then I start asking them questions, like "What is my most acute personal problem I should concentrate upon?" This does not work. Why? Because of too much control! As I know, I am lucid in my dream, my consciousness is trying hard to keep control, and this also means controlling my dream characters and trying to "put words into their mouths".

Then I found one website where some experienced lucid dreamer told a solution. He told that if a person always tries to keep too much control, he actually may lose ability to have lucid dreams, because lucidity periods will get shorter each time. He suggested to NOT control.
Concentrate on your most important question, shoot it out in your dream, and then let your lucidity go. You'll get an answer in some form or another, if you stop "being a control freak" of your dream.

Using this technique, I sometimes was able to have much longer periods of lucidity mixed with periods of a usual dream. Sometimes consciousness enters a "on/off" state - you are lucid, then initiate something (do something crazy, ask a question...) then let it go, then dream answers, and then suddenly you are lucid again ... and such cycling continues for some time, usually it's longer than a simple lucid dream.

What's also good about this technique: you can ask questions even if there is no obvious "beings" around. Ask the dream itself. There will be reaction.

For example, I asked my dream: "What is the purpose of life?" When I asked that, I was near some high building. Then I entered "observer mode". And then this building became transparent, I could see staircase now. And then stairs started to twist and finally made a circle. It was a never-ending, up-going circle. Actually like this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascending_and_Descending

So maybe my dream wanted to tell me that life is a never-ending process of action-reaction, always evolving (or de-evolving). Hmm, there should be branches of various choices and probabilities ... maybe there were, but I got excited and woke up too soon.

And there is also another technique which worked for me. When going to sleep, I form a strong intent to ask some question in my dream. And then it happens like so: at some moment during a dream I start having an urge to do something important. Sometimes the dream shows me clues - one night it was a large metallic key, some other night the stars in the sky started to dance and formed some text and I had to read it. Anyway, those signs bring memory back and I do what I intended. Without even knowing I am dreaming! You don't have to be lucid to do something meaningful in your dreams. Strong intent is enough.

Good luck!

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Okey, thanks for the advices, I will make us of them. I also had a fun time with clocks.. I know they dont work in the dreams. People say the analog can work but not for me, neither the analog or the digital clock worked for me, they showed different time each time.


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I remember a lucid dream with my brother from a while back. I began making myself levitate, he responded in shock "How are you doing that!". I answered something along the lines of "This is the dream world, all we need to do is use our minds and we can do whatever we want." He did not respond after that, once I announced it my lucidity was revoked and I was back too caught up in what was happening to hold onto that awareness.

I've also had others where after a test situation I has approached by a couple of guys who where watching the whole thing, they kind of interviewed me and shook my hand. The last guy wouldn't let go of my hand, and asked "What did you do to get here?" and proceed to stare, I could not speak. Kind of the opposite of the problem you have haha.

Another situation where I could not speak was during a binaural beats session and I asked to see my guide, long story short I became aware somewhere else after looking in a mirror and not seeing myself, but a winding corridor where a woman stepped out. I was completely frozen, and could not speak, I kept struggle to make a sound and she shushed me. I took it as an ironic sign to be more specific with my intent, instead of just asking to see my guide. It is good to find the humor in it all.


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Oh, yeah, they "out there" (or "in there", in case they are just my dream actors) have a great sense of humor.

One night I had some lucidity, but I could not think of anything useful I could ask. So I just shouted out: "Hey, what is the question I should ask now?"

Then I saw some guy approaching me, he had ironic smile on his face, and he said: "Well, so you need questions. Wouldn't answers be much more useful?" I woke up almost immediately. I felt so amused and a bit embarrassed :D

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Oh, yeah, they "out there" (or "in there", in case they are just my dream actors) have a great sense of humor.

One night I had some lucidity, but I could not think of anything useful I could ask. So I just shouted out: "Hey, what is the question I should ask now?"

Then I saw some guy approaching me, he had ironic smile on his face, and he said: "Well, so you need questions. Wouldn't answers be much more useful?" I woke up almost immediately. I felt so amused and a bit embarrassed :D




LOL, That's a riot!

We all have those special moments.... thanks for sharing.


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