I am not sure where to post this question, or even if it is appropriate to ask, I peeked around the site a bit first to see if I could find out on my own but it seems that did not work so here it is.. On February 19, 2012 I had a series of OBEs, one of which put through a piece of data regarding Ted Vollers, who I do not know, save by name from the handful of times I've come through here. This of course surprised me greatly. The past couple days he has been periodically popping up in my awareness, so I thought I'd come through and see if I saw any recent posts from him. In the few forums I looked in I did not see him. He has generally been online here when I've passed through before, but right now I do not see his name listed.. If it is, by chance appropriate to ask may I enquire into how Ted is?

Hi omcasey. I saw him here yesterday but not today that I recall. Welcome to posting to Tom's MBT discussion forums.
Love to you and yours,
Bette

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omcasey,

I pop on and off the board constantly during the day and night. I sleep only one or two sleep cycles at a time as a lifetime characteristic. I hope that the waters you were trolling popped up nothing particularly negative about me. I am basically doing as well as I have been for the past year or so. If you searched for my posts, they would be listed in order of time and date and show you when I recently posted. I only post when it seems there is something I can contribute that is not already being covered in a thread as overlooked or perhaps needing a detail or correction per what Tom has told us in MBT as I understand it. To me, the ideal would be to never have to post other than to congratulate someone for their quality of posting as you had all learned everything that I might say already.

Ted

Ted!, oh good, I am pleased to know you are well.. And hello to you, Bette, thank you for the welcome.

Normally I just let information like this pass, it is only that you recently were popping up again, this time in my daytime awareness that I came through and made this inquiry. To-date I have not really ever been able to decipher metaphors such as this one received when in other areas of consciousness. In this particular experience, which was grouped within a much larger set of experiences I was simply shown the obituary page of an NP newspaper and there was your name. It was linked at a deeper layer with another name, Max Hollar, which I was able to retrieve [literally hear in my awareness] but have no known association with at all.

Who knows about these things. The majority of the data I receive I have no idea what to do with. I just log the events when they seem pertinent. If you by chance have insight into this I would welcome what you feel to put through. Perhaps the whole idea was simply to get me here and talking with you. In fact, something new IS attempting to come through as I write this.., it is too vague, though, still. Too fine. We'll see if I can get at it in the night.

Tom has described there being no mass media in NPMR and thus no 'newspapers', with or without obituaries. Everything is individual to individual. Since NPMR experience is continuous, there would certainly be no obituary columns. I know no Max Hollar although there are at least 3 showing up on the Internet as living here in the US. One is apparently involved in producing 3D images which seems the only intersection as I am interested in doing so but only involved in engineering type images.

I do not go around OOB as Tom might and people have reported 'meeting' him. This is all news to me and I have no explanation for the metaphors.

Ted

Maybe you were Max Hollar in a past life that ended like they all do eventually. That could be the connection with the obit page. There wasn't a date was there?
Love
Bette

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I don't like to claim, that what I think is right. This is just my thoughts.

Interpretation of data is very personal. I would think, that obituary in this case might stand for Ted has to attend funeral, that he has to see his doctor, because his health issues, or anything else. I don't see anything detrimental in Ted's life right now, that he and all of us should to worry about. Uncertainty is major factor here.

Maxwell Heller, does this name sound familiar to you, Ted? This is link to his painting http://www.askart.com/askart/h/maxwell_ ... eller.aspx

Maxwell Hollar http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=67177253 was a baby, had not lived very long life.

Lena

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I know nothing about my past lives, other than what I have mentioned on the board before. This was not so much in regards to me but in terms of my being probably a counselor to someone who I know in this life and who was in the past a geisha, a middle eastern dancer and a part of a landed Chinese peasant family, but when and in what order, I have no clue or any significant information. Just 'hints' from visualizations.

Those links ring no bells for me.

I am not uncomfortable with uncertainty.

Ted

A couple things to consider that popped into my mind.

1) There are probably a lot of "Ted Vollers" on this planet.

2) It could be a nudge having nothing to do with how you interpreted it, or the experience itself.

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omcasey - I have the best luck in interpreting these metaphors by looking at concepts they represent and not taking them literally.

In such a case Ted is a stand in for how ever you feel about him - father figure, wise man, elder - whatever. I don't know what an obituary means to you - change, transition, death, health, your own aging?

Hi Ted,

Yes, I agree with Tom.. the data I was receiving through direct communication with [what I call] a deeper layer of my being was was visually interpreted through my system in this way. The newspaper was being read by a grouping of three NP beings, the feeling was very high and like that of the word going out, the news being spread, the data coming online / being widely available. I did not see the date (Bette.., that would have been good), if I had I would know what timeframe I was viewing. But as it stands I do not. There are elements to my OBEs which are purely metaphoric, elements which are related purely to me.. I have come to see, though, through the years that the precognitive data is also there. I can get to it, I am brought to it quite alot, but my deciphering skills are not yet very developed. I miss many of the connections.

Because you mention it, Tom did show up in one of my experiences not long before this one involving you/your name, he was speaking with a group of people who I came in on just briefly when shifting through to elsewhere. A bit more to it, but I go out quite often, sometimes for extended durations and this experience is not clear in my mind at the moment.


I appreciate you speaking with me, Ted, lots still to come through on this one..,

Casey

Btw..,
having difficulties uploading an avatar, but just so you can see who you are talking to, here's me..


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ha! --[edited out photo]

with the help of a friend I got the photo size down..

small feats :), one by one . . .

Nice picture, hi. :)
Love
Bette

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Thank you, Bette.. I cannot see yours, btw, my server isn't uploading it with the rest.

At the moment Bette doesn't have any picture (as her avatar) at least from my browser :).