Hi V,

I probably could meditate if I wasn't so lazy but I don't as a rule do the standard sit quietly clearing the mind (or whatever) for 20 minutes twice a day thing because I have ADHD and can't sit still for that long unless I'm extremely interested like in a lecture or class. I'm a master rationalizer so with that being said think I get what NPMR I get during sleep which I don't remember dreams in well either. I have never been able to visualize too. I'm having enough challenges in PMR as I see it. Meditating doesn't lead to OOB I do know that so that is something to make sure you don't get mixed up in your wife's ideas. Meditating is something I still plan to start doing though because it is good for the bit of Consciousness I am responsible for right now. My OOB was just from me taking a nap in the afternoon and I didn't realize what it was until I came here but it didn't scare me in any way. It was cool. My son needs me and I am pretty sure I haven't said what I intended yet, but here is this for now.
Love
Bette

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Consciousness.

many "normal" people are open to mediumship and spiritualism, "psychic fair" type stuff.

try John Edward DVDs or visiting Lilydale (NY) in the summer.

if she sees a change in you, this will plant a seed on a sub-concious level

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V my advice is to not do this. :)
Love
Bette

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Edward must be on a radio promotional tour or some such, as I heard several days of him talking on a radio spot of a station from Omaha.

I found that a bit incongruous, but less so than if it had been a Lincoln station.

There is a new "closurer" in town she is called The Manhattan Medium I think. She was on the Anderson show today and as I see it picks up on what a loved one needs from a passed loved ones data and gives them closure.
Love
Bette

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The concept of 'closurer' sounds useful for a start. I guess it's a matter of how she pulls off that function and whether it useful or not.

It appears useful what she does which is just walk up to strangers and tell them private things about a deceased loved one that changes their life in a good way so far from what I have seen of her. Very bold, she has a cable show.
Love
Bette

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I have no knowledge of her show, so if what you say about her 'methodology' is correct, I'd have to agree with the characterization of 'bold'.

Sounds like the epitome of 'cold calling' ;-)

Here is a link. http://www.andersoncooper.com/2012/03/2 ... nd-medium/
Love
Bette

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Consciousness.

Thanks for the link, Bette !

My first impression of her, is related to her 'New Yawker' accent. I feel her 'warmth' as in the stereotypical 'Jewish Mom' way. Those who have known such individuals will understand.

She positions herself well with the 'belief versus understand' position. for interaction with even close-minded individuals.

I'm impressed.

My first exposure to an individual that 'talked to the dead' was in '95. I think the man's name was Bill, and had a reputation for his ability. He was a guest and a Psychotronics Conference in which Dannion Brinkley was a keynote speaker.

I didn't know then, exactly how his communication was possible, but I considered even back then there was a plausible explanation. MBT has provided that explanation.

I'm kind of going through the same thing with my wife. I recommend starting slow... explain you're becoming more open to spiritual ideas. You can explain the OBE type stuff as interesting lucid dreams you've been having lately. I'm not saying you should lie, per se, but rather give her time to absorb this new path you are taking.

I remember when I showed my wife a forum thread where I had been successfully giving folks "psychic readings" and information about deceased loved ones. It was nerve-wracking, but she got used to the idea.

one group of spouses has a toe in NPMR through mediumship, and I have mentioned that this can be strengthened through Spiritualism, which is the pseudo-religion established around mediumship. They do actual free readings and healing as part of the church or temple services. Spiritualist Churches tend to have more of a religious feeling than Spiritualist Temples. Lilydale, NY, is the Vatican of Spiritualism, and is a great place to strengthen an openness to authentic mediumship. I do not recommend mediums who operate commercially outside of spiritualism or the Lilydale Assembly licence system.

http://www.lilydaleassembly.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritualism

http://www.dmoz.org/Society/Religion_an ... _Churches/

http://www.islandnet.com/~sric/directory.htm

another group of spouses will be asking themselves, that does this mean for me, that my spouse may be going nuts. An effective response here is to emphasize the PMR normalcy of the lineage, the dropping in and not dropping out aspect, "spirituality for eggheads" aspect, that this "love" belief will have direct benefits to the spouse as the principle beneficiary of other-centered Intent, but as well, the spouse should experience a distinct change in your quality of interaction as you reach for better intent within your perceived decision space, especially during moments of stress and conflict with said spouse. Pick your battles, and then fight them differently.

I try to soften things by referring to these activities as my "philosophy club" and listening to Binaural Beats as "taking a nap", which often turns out to be true. ; - )

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You may find, after a few months, that you look back on your words from recently and think 'I wrote that?'. If so, then you have effected change. The trick is to put some space between when you write and when you read what you wrote. That way, the changes have time to manifest in a way that makes you think in an entirely different way and you will end up reading them as if you are someone else.