Ted Vollers wrote:
Has anyone ever warned you that you have a propensity to think that relatively superficial concepts are marvelous and deep? To be caught up in relatively trivial ideas? Too easily impressed?
Yep! You have :) And yet what is superficial lol, are you sure that talking about a core concept in vague terms is better or worse than getting straight to the point? If the round about approach confuses, than maybe it is a good way for some people. The round about approach tends to get one thinking hard, while the straight to the point is like a rigid jacket sometimes. Maybe not for you, dude. Also, the superficial for one person is new for another, or maybe for the other it isn't new but he hath been avoiding it so far ;) Clearly if you already know it you're going to scoff at it .... if you like to do such things .... Personally i already knew the main concepts in my big toe from 'seth speaks', so i scoffed .... it was just different in that it used different terminology .... though it did clarify things for me as i flipped through to random pages.
I think its funny that its being impressed by the 'superficial' or 'unimportant' things which shouldn't even be pondered that can spawn great ideas ... Who said they are superficial? You? If one is excited about them, emotional about them, what does the 'my big toe' say about emotional reactions and their utility for the person who has them?
Ok lena, so from your links I got the main idea as being this:
Pay attention in the moment in order to bring focus and energy to existing in the moment instead of the past.
I think images are just sort of conditioning that one doesn't like. Aka they are 'beliefs' that one thinks are irrelevant. In my opinion, all beliefs arent like these, but alot might be - they are 'roles' we like to defend, like you and bette said....
I think the most effective method for getting rid of these is the following methods:
(1) While awake focus ones attention in the moment, or dont fragment it so much. So the utility of meditation is learning how to focus ones attention, and thats why some discplines recommend stuff like walking meditation, learning how to bring this focus to everyday life.
(2) Once we focus in the moment, we are too busy to form images as we are trying to see things in the whole and 'unlogic' and experience new magical things. In actuality, if we don't pay attention, we might make stuff up based on past experience, one way of forming 'images.'
(3) In order to 'unimage' ourselves, the following technique is useful. I learned about it from the book 'Become the Dream: Transforming Power of Hypnotic Dreamwork.'
When you awake from a dream, keep still with your eyes closed. Recall any dream fragments, and allow them to come to you, instead of chasing after them. Allow them to 'free associate' and connect. When ready, describe the dream and the feelings involved.
Now, become a character, feeel the character, be the emotions of the character, and start talking as if you were the character. For example, you could be talking to another character. Then, once done, you can switch chairs/spots and begin talking as if you were the other character. If it is a wish fulfillment dream, then resolving/good feelings will come soon. If it is a frustration dream, then there will be tension between the character at first. However, if one talks it through, and keeps switching spots, the tension will be released, just like talking truthfully with someone else can relieve tension.
Do this for multiple characters - the character don't have to be sentient! It can be a chair, or a goldfish, whatever feels important. And you don't have to do every character.
Once this is done, create some affirmations in your mind if you like that affirm the lessons learned and maybe meditate on them for 5 minutes (i made that up, in the book its the therapist who made up the affirmations).
Be sure you are supportive of yourself throughout the whole process.
The idea behind the above is that dreams are all about you, and the characters are fragments of you. By talking over things, one is integrating parts of oneself. I tried this out with a dream I had tonight and i felt relief afterwards!
(4) In summary, the limiting beliefs are only limiting if you are a giant locked in a small cage. To a fly they might be quite awesome beliefs. You're conscious mind gets to decide what it accepts as true, but since we have already accepted stuff without being responsible for evaluating it (not doing open minded skepticism), we need to deimage somewhat. But that's normal ...And the ability to accept what is real in PMR is increased with fine focus in the moment, otherwise we might just make stuff up based on our past, which is useful at times btw ....